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Pinbuster

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CATS at ABC in Reno
« on: March 23, 2004, 04:31:52 PM »
Prices for CATS at the ABC tournament.

$60   -   CATS Analysis only    

$85   -   Review of your game, coaching, analysis, etc

$110   -   CATS plus the coaching session.

$160   -   CATS plus coaching plus video tape of the session. (I’m not absolutely
      sure on this price).

$309   -   All the above plus a new storm ball.


I believe they are open from 9:00 AM to 7:00 pm. You will probably have to make an appointment. Mike Jasnau and Rachel Perez are running the sessions.

They recommend you wait until after you have competed in the tournament so that you don’t try and incorporate any changes into your game while competing.

I took the $60 session as I really only wanted the numbers. Mike Jasnau did my analysis.

They gave you 10 to 15 shots to warm up on. The shot on the lane was challenging but not as tough as the ABC shot.

I then threw 10 shots that were measured by the CATS system When I had completed the shots Mike showed my the numbers and how they related to different average groups. They also had a lane level back view (boy I wish ESPN would show this view all the time) on a computer so they could stop action the swing and analyse it.

All in all very informative and I was glad that I had it done. In my mind well worth the money.
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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2004, 07:55:44 AM »
So were your numbers better/worse or what you exspected? Did you feel like a goofball after watching yourself bowl? I have known alot of people that have gotten there ego destroyed after watching themselves bowl. They say I didnt know I looked like that or did that yada yada yada.
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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2004, 09:12:48 AM »
I have seen myself bowl before so I wasn’t surprised at that.

My numbers were all very good and actually were better than my average. I used my average from this year of 212 and all the numbers I had were in the 220+ range other than my ball speed which was a little low (17.4 mph). He was a little surprise at my average.

My rev rate was 300 - 310 which was a little higher than I expected.
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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2004, 09:29:47 AM »
Thats cool that you have seen yourself before. I was wondering what the average numbers represent. How do they come up with you average? If you could please explain to me and others?
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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2004, 11:35:23 AM »
When they do the analysis, they compare your numbers in several areas to the bowlers that they have in their massive data base.
For example - if you throw the ball at 16.5 mph, you compare to other bowlers who average 205 (or something like that.
If your speed range is +/-0.2 mph, you compare to other bowlers who average 210.
etc.
I has this analysis done 6 years ago, and since I've totally changed my game since then, I really, really, really want to do it again. Probably will when in Reno this year.
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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2004, 11:36:57 AM »
For each of the measurements they take they have compiled statistics by average on a range for that measurement.

I don’t have the numbers with me right now. But here are some examples (not sure my numbers will be correct on the average ranges).  

Ball speed at the arrows is measured. Mine was 17.4 mph. They have found that most 220+ bowlers throw between 18.2 and 18.5, 210 – 220 throw around 17.9 to 18.2, etc.

Ball speed consistency, my speed varied by .5 mph (17.1 low, 17.6 high). This was better than most 220+ average bowlers. A 180 average might have a variance of 1.5 mph.

Accuracy at the arrow, my accuracy was within 2.5 inches. This was better than most 220+ averages. A 180 average might have variance of 6 inches.

They also measure how consistent you are at getting to the foul line. They call it a launch angle and the measure a max and minimum getting a variance. If you get to a different spot at the line even if you hit your target then your shot is off.

Entry angle as well as other measurements I can’t remember right now are shown as well. There are about 8 key measurements they take and compare with the average groupings.
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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2004, 12:24:46 PM »
PB, I need to come over and see your results.  It sounds very interesting.  Might try it myself if I have the money and time.  You knew your accuracy numbers would put you in the high categories.  Now, you have written proof.

What excuse did you give him for not averaging more?    

Did they offer any tips on improving?

Any of the others participate in this?  I'd like to see lefty's numbers.
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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2004, 01:15:36 PM »
ksucat - I was the only one of my group but there generally was someone in there whenever I went by.

Excuses - Old, Fat, Ugly, and a mental basket case.

He thought my swing was too muscled (I laughed and said no kidding ). The only real advice they gave was to loosen up the armswing and get more of a backswing that would generate the additional ball speed without muscling the ball.

It was interesting they have the stats ball by ball of the 10 ball set. I said something about I felt I really tried to hit the ball extra on one shot. The stats showed on that shot I actually lost about 10 revs. So much for what feels powerfull.

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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2004, 02:49:51 PM »
Besides speed and measuring how accurate you are, can the
C.A.T.S system tell what your rev rate is?
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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2004, 02:57:05 PM »
They do calc your rev rate.

They put a strip of tape on your ball to help in doing that.
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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2004, 03:29:25 PM »
Thanks!
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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2004, 10:30:24 PM »
Thanks for the info..I was thinking about stopping by there. I do have one question...I have never had a ball drilled by anyone who actually watched me bowl. Would it be worthwhile to go there before bowling, and taking the info to the pro shop and having a ball drilled there?
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Re: CATS at ABC in Reno
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2004, 07:13:56 AM »
With the coaching package I believe they do give some grip analysis. And the one package included a storm ball.

I personally have not had a ball drilled there but I know of some who have and have had success with balls that were selected by the booths.
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