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Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« on: May 06, 2016, 02:37:07 PM »
Is it illegal to use a ball in USBC league or tournament if there are multiple signatures (in permanent ink) on the ball (including the track area)?

 

Bowler19525

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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2016, 02:54:53 PM »
Yes, it is illegal.  Per the USBC Rules, Chapter 8, 4b:

"b. No foreign material may be placed on the outer surface or in the balance hole of the ball
including but not limited to powder, marker or paint. Bowling tape is acceptable in a balance hole."

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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2016, 02:57:24 PM »
never knew this.  Next time your team is losing, just bust out the sharpie on the other team's equipment!

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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2016, 03:29:26 PM »
Bowling tape is acceptable in a balance hole."

Why would someone put tape in a non-gripping balance hole?
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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2016, 03:30:36 PM »
Bowling tape is acceptable in a balance hole."

Why would someone put tape in a non-gripping balance hole?
Easier to track visually.

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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2016, 03:32:14 PM »
Bowling tape is acceptable in a balance hole."

Why would someone put tape in a non-gripping balance hole?
Easier to track visually.

Why track the balance hole?  I would think the overall motion would be what you want to track.  I ask b/c my IQ30 has a P3 hole and I'm curious as to what I'm supposed to be missing.
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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2016, 04:15:00 PM »
Yes, it is illegal.  Per the USBC Rules, Chapter 8, 4b:

"b. No foreign material may be placed on the outer surface or in the balance hole of the ball
including but not limited to powder, marker or paint. Bowling tape is acceptable in a balance hole."

What if it was signed with a Sharpie approved for use during USBC competition?  ???
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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2016, 05:22:42 PM »

Why would someone put tape in a non-gripping balance hole?

It's in reference to the bowlers who don't use their thumbhole, which when not used is considered a balance hole.


The real question to ask is why use a ball you went to the trouble to collect autographs on in the first place?

If you don't care about the autographs anymore, just sand them off then you can use the ball.
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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2016, 08:27:22 PM »
Really? Can a ball signed with magic marker give someone an advantage? If this is really a rule it's time for the USBC to say bye bye!!

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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2016, 07:51:59 AM »
Really? Can a ball signed with magic marker give someone an advantage? If this is really a rule it's time for the USBC to say bye bye!!

It doesn't matter if it gives a advantage or not, The rule say's "No foreign material may be placed on the outer surface".

The Ink would be a foreign material, so is thus illegal to have on the surface.
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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2016, 12:23:17 PM »
Magic markers sharpies etc have no impact on ball reaction.  However some foreign substances do.  It makes more sense to ban all foreign substances than get into constant arguments about which would and which wouldn't impact ball reaction.

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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2016, 01:11:38 PM »
Maybe, depending on when the ball was marked, someone feared that the ink could transfer to the lanes when reacting to the oil?  But I think the best answer was Avabob's that it would be better to ban all then make another list of what was or was not allowed.
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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2016, 10:10:30 PM »
Ridiculous at the very least!  There is no way in hell anyone involved with making this rule ever thought about magic marker when they were worrying about foreign substances added to the ball. Go ahead and use the ball with the writing on it, I guarantee nobody will complain.

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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2016, 05:29:08 PM »
Well, the rule does say "including but not limited to powder, marker or paint."  What other type of marker is there other than magic marker/sharpie?  99.9% of bowlers wouldn't care if the ball gets used in sanctioned competition, but there will always be that 0.1% who files a protest when they lose and want to take it out on someone.

I was bowling in a tournament recently and a guy on our pair used acetone to clean his stuff during practice.  It smelled like a paint shop in the settee area even after moving lanes after each game because he continued to use the same towel during the tournament.  No one cared despite the use of acetone being a HUGE no-no. 

Chapter 8 also states that the ball MUST have the original brand name/logo, ball name, and serial number on the ball.  How many balls are out there being used after multiple resurfacings where the engraving of the make and model is partially or totally gone?  I used my Ebonite Adrenaline Shot for the the first time this morning, and after 2 games the orange engraving in the "A" in Adrenaline has already started wearing away.  100 games from now who knows what will be left on the ball?

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Re: Illegal to use ball with autographs?
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2016, 12:24:57 AM »
Why would someone have a ball they still planned on using, get autographed?