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TJ Jr · « **on:** February 10, 2012, 06:59:13 AM »

Looks a fair amount flatter. First off the top of the head thought is scores will be lower than last years.

riggs · « **Reply #31 on:** February 20, 2012, 05:23:57 AM »

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FrontTwelv · « **Reply #32 on:** February 20, 2012, 07:11:59 AM »

charlest wrote on 2/16/2012 4:43 PM:
It not only looks like serious sport condition, it also looks almost totally balanced left to right.

I thought in the past, the lefties' side had slightly more dry mostly because there are so many fewer lefties. Now it seems to be the same board for board, or did I read it wrong??

I think scores are going to be lower than many recent years.

Also 26 ml is a good amount of oil, more than most house shots see regularly.

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Edited by charlest on 2/16/2012 at 4:47 PM

There is significantly less oil than we're used to. I bowled an event yesterday on this shot, it held up well. The usual attack up the outside didn't seem too favorable. I had a much better look inside, but keep in mind, I didn't have four other bowlers, make that 9 others who were burning up the right. I had a good look in the middle with a pin down hybrid.

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batbowler · « **Reply #33 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:02:06 AM »

Ditto 230! The mid-range and weaker with surface seem to hold up longer. The high end stuff was good for about 5 frames and then moves were necessary!!!

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TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:11:03 AM »

Bruce,

So are we saying that if you have the right group of guys taking dull high end stuff and playing up 7-8-9, that by the end of shadow or shortly thereafter we could already create a little bump area due to the lower volume? I am going out April 30-May1 with a really good team from the midwest area and we plan on doing a practice session the night before we are scheduled to bowl team event.

Also, what do you think about taking plastic balls and firing them up 3rd arrow to help create some hold in the middle? I may suggest to my team to do that on one lane and do the dull high end balls on the other lane and see which one plays the best.

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DrBob806 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 20, 2012, 12:07:35 PM »

Ouch.

It's the information age, and if we can learn anything before we head down, I think it's all great. As always, it still comes down to execution of your skills.

riggs wrote on 2/20/2012 6:23 AM:I posted my blog on Mo on my Facebook page and he got shredded by the likes of Mike DeVaney and Jerry Kessler, among others.

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Russell · « **Reply #36 on:** February 20, 2012, 12:28:51 PM »

Just my .02 on that I think the pattern is plenty long to where you shouldn't need to "create" hold. Usually that's a good strategy for shorter patterns, because there is such a large amount of friction downlane. Also keep in mind that you will be moving oil out of the heads to do that, so for all of the hold you create, you'll also create hook in the heads. I think you will get more bang for your buck creating a hook spot vs. creating a hang spot, which is what will inevitably happen come the 3rd game.

TWOHAND834 wrote on 2/20/2012 11:11 AM:Bruce,

So are we saying that if you have the right group of guys taking dull high end stuff and playing up 7-8-9, that by the end of shadow or shortly thereafter we could already create a little bump area due to the lower volume? I am going out April 30-May1 with a really good team from the midwest area and we plan on doing a practice session the night before we are scheduled to bowl team event.

Also, what do you think about taking plastic balls and firing them up 3rd arrow to help create some hold in the middle? I may suggest to my team to do that on one lane and do the dull high end balls on the other lane and see which one plays the best.

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stopncrank · « **Reply #37 on:** February 20, 2012, 12:58:30 PM »

39ft. still leaves alot of backend, im not sure pattern carving is gonna be an advantage this year like it has in years past.

I bowled on the pattern at my home center over the weekend, and outside of 8 board was not playable, maybe if a group burnt a spot all through out practice, but that part of the lane did not give a favorable look. The better shot was to move everything in, keeping the breakpoint around 8, 9 and 10 board, anything outside of that wasnt making it back, and anything inside of that was through the nose. I know each center is different, will be interesting to see how my home center plays compared to Baton Rouge.

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TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 20, 2012, 02:03:43 PM »

Thats pretty much what I figured. Breakpoint always seems to be in that 8-10 board area. It is just ball match up and shot execution that determines how well you score.

stopncrank wrote on 2/20/2012 1:58 PM:
39ft. still leaves alot of backend, im not sure pattern carving is gonna be an advantage this year like it has in years past.

I bowled on the pattern at my home center over the weekend, and outside of 8 board was not playable, maybe if a group burnt a spot all through out practice, but that part of the lane did not give a favorable look. The better shot was to move everything in, keeping the breakpoint around 8, 9 and 10 board, anything outside of that wasnt making it back, and anything inside of that was through the nose. I know each center is different, will be interesting to see how my home center plays compared to Baton Rouge.

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Edited by stopncrank on 2/20/2012 at 2:18 PM

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Curt_Dupre · « **Reply #39 on:** February 20, 2012, 02:24:04 PM »

I bowled in the River Center during the Wednesday sweeper right before the official pattern came out. Now I know what I bowled on probably wasn't the exact pattern they have, but I am pretty sure it was close. This is what I got out of it. I used a number of balls just to try some different angles. I had a decent look going up 6-7 with a 505C at 4000 to start. What I noticed is stronger surfaces and stronger balls, caused the pattern to play much tougher. I got a bunch of early hook going straight or trying to go left to right. Now granted I played out pretty much by myself so never got to carve the pattern out. Another thing I noticed is they is a complete lack of hold. When my ball started reading too quick, I got into trouble. I tried to make some smaller moves, but that did not work as my ball started hooking through the face. What I did was I went to a shiny high pin 716C and opened up my angle. I started playing 13-6. My look got a lot better. The shine allowed the ball to get through the early hook, and retain energy downlane. The way I see it, the good teams can go straight to start and create a good bit of room to the outside. I also noticed the moves are going to be bigger in order try to find hold. Now granted this is just my take. On another pair a couple of my friends broke them down together, playing up 5 to start. They all shot above 600 for 3 with 1 guy shooting 720. As for myself I shot 200, 191, 213 for 3. I did throw 6 balls just trying out different things. I didn't miss any spares, But did leave 6 splits all through the face.

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stopncrank · « **Reply #40 on:** February 20, 2012, 02:35:35 PM »

Curt, thats pretty much spot on as to what I saw as well. Folks using the upper end stuff struggled to move fast enought to keep up with the transition. Those that used mid to low range stuff had a much more manageable look.

I know some have said maybe stay in the same spot and ball down, and while that might work for some it did not work for me, of course part of that was due to where others started. But i too struggled with finding hold, and 3 and 2 moves at times werent enough once I chased it inside of 20. Thats when the carry issues really came into play.

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230-n-up-or-bust · « **Reply #41 on:** February 20, 2012, 02:51:16 PM »

This will, most definitely, NOT be a tournament to be on a team with charcoal shimwreckers.

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riggs · « **Reply #42 on:** February 28, 2012, 04:19:35 PM »

Take this with about 5 grains of salt - not real certain yet about this pattern.

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