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strikeking

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My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« on: May 21, 2012, 02:53:38 PM »
First of all, if you have spectators going, make sure they take sweaters to the lanes. If you think you are going to bowl well, think again. The shot is someting I have NEVER seen in all of my years of bowling. It is flat across the lanes with back-ends that hook really hard. Miss your mark 1 board right the ball stays right. Miss your mark one board left the ball misses left. You won't see any sloppy strikes or flying pins off the side boards. Spares are a guessing game of wether or not the ball will miss left or right.  The best scoring seems to be right down the middle where there is a slight bit of more oil. If you have a plastic ball, take it with you. This maybe the best ball for this condition.
We parked in the Belle parking garage and walked to the lanes through the Belle Atrium. It is a little farther but it is free.
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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2012, 08:14:23 PM »
I have bowled there already and the reason it is cold is to control the humidity in the building. As for the shot being tough it is always a welcome challenge. I like it you have to execute and that is what bowling the nationals is about. As for the plastic ball being the best ball to use...no way. again you have to get the ball off your hand super clean, near perfect speed, generally making consistent shots. By the way don't take my post wrong as slamming you because that is not the case. The score that is posted there will not be beat and it is truly an amazing accomplishment.

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 03:17:29 PM »
Well said Russell. And the pattern was not flat. It was difficult but it was not flat. I fyou check the lane pattern it was a 2.something to 1.

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 03:24:58 PM »
Hey, watch out. That's some elitist comments your making! Didn't you see my post about sport bowling needing to die? :p

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 10:34:45 PM »
Lefties have more room on the gutter from what I observed while bowling on our pair.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 11:32:23 PM »
This is not even close to impending doom and gloom's topic. Everyone expects the USBC shot to be tough. That's why many only go when it's in a city or area that has something else to offer. ID&G's topic concerned league bowling. Tournaments are a whole different animal, especially the USBC.

And after reading Russell go after the topic's author I must comment that I didn't get anything from strikeking's post that sounded at all like he didn't enjoy the test of the USBC shot. Just sounded like his observations!!
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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 07:01:38 PM »
My trip was a bit different than described. To start we live in the Dallas area other than one bowler, so made the trip to Arlington to practice at the ITRC. Money well spent. As far as the shot. This year showed how important the team approach is to success. Like many we practiced with surface for the first 7 minutes are close to the 7 board as our games allowed. Now for some this was 8,9,10 or even 12-15. We have one power player. Key was we worked to burn the break point. Can't say we lit it up, but we had a decent shot if we executed and it opened up faster than expected. Personally I made horrific shots in the 10th all three games and paid for it with tough spares and a couple bad chopped shots. No pattern to blame, I made bad shots. Where we saw the benifit of teams playing at least close together and outside 10 for as long as possible was doubles and singles. We caught good teams and decent crosses. We were OK in doubles as we had some carry issues, but could hit the pocket pretty easy. In singles we had 3 700 plus series out of our 10 guys, with one setting in 5th. In game two we had two of our bowlers with the front 9. None of us are PBA tour and all of us just bowl in the Dallas area bowlers bowling out a 16 lane center and traveling league. We do travel and bowl multiple tournaments together as well.  Key this year and based on watching Riggs, you have to play togther and the shot was not up the middle and those that started there destroyed their opportunity to score.  We are going to continue to push to get 10 bowlers, playing together with a common goal and break down the correct area for the pattern length and volume. If we can accomplish that, we hope to have our picture on the site someday. Many of us are over 50 or getting close so need to get it together pretty soon. See you in Reno.....

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2012, 12:11:51 AM »
Scores are down quite a bit this year.  Several guys who I know well that usually shoot very good bolwed terrible this year.  Not sure if this is the first year for the A22 machine, but I know tour guys said the same pattern on the new machine played a lot different than with the Ion machine.  This will be my first miss since 1994 so I cant comment directly.  I do know from past experience that scores are usually lower in the southeast ( Baton Rouge before, Huntsville, Knoxville were all lower than years Salt Lake, Billings, and Reno that preceded them. 

Bowl_Freak

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2012, 11:30:00 AM »
I don't know why everyone is thinking this years shot is tougher then any other year. This year is my best year at USBCs. To me it was pretty open compared to all the other times I went, which has only been 4 other times. I didn't shoot a big number,but my first 1800 though.

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2012, 01:27:43 PM »
I think it's tougher in the sense that a shorter pattern can be played in many many different ways and with different equipment.  And this pattern played shorter than 39 feet.  So you have a large collection of average bowlers who throw the ball all over the place from 4th & 5th arrow on the fresh to 1st & 2nd arrow using everything from aggressive equipment low hooking pearls.  This essentially creates a mess of the lane and makes it very difficult to navigate.  I think the scores have been lower on the singles/doubles side because of the inconsistencies in the way players play the lanes from bowler to bowler, lane to lane, pair to pair...The transition of lanes in the team events have also been difficult, and it's been pretty evident that even if you have 10 guys doing the same thing, it's still a tough place to string strikes.

I too had my best all events score (2059), but I never once thought that the lanes were easier than previous years.  I think you have to look at the overall scores and leading scores and summarize that those scores alone indicate the lanes are tougher this year than in years past.     

Bowl_Freak

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2012, 01:54:27 PM »
What's going to happen to scores in singles/doubles next year when they reoil before every squad. Are the scores going to skyrocket or plummet?

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2012, 02:20:31 PM »
What's going to happen to scores in singles/doubles next year when they reoil before every squad. Are the scores going to skyrocket or plummet?

In my estimation, the highs will be higher and the lows will be lower.
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Andyman3333

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2012, 03:14:31 PM »
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What's going to happen to scores in singles/doubles next year when they reoil before every squad. Are the scores going to skyrocket or plummet?

In my estimation, the highs will be higher and the lows will be lower.

Yep.  It's really how it should be.  We should all be starting on the same playing field, or at least as close as humanly possible.  I'm also an advocate for bowling team on one lane instead of alternating.  This is only because there is no 10-player team award, but the way team is bowled these days, it's a 10-player team.  Some teams don't have 10-players that can work together.  If you just bowled on one lane, you wouln't have to worry about random companion teams.  I don't know, the idea may seem way out of the box and not within the tradition alternating lanes, but we're all pretty much aware at this point that lane oil manipulation is a key strategy to victory and you really need all 10 guys on the same gameplan.  But there is NO 10-Player team award... Maybe there should be...

Bill Thomas

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2012, 12:45:54 PM »
Andyman3333,

I like the idea of bowling team on one lane.  It would be another step toward fairness.  Just as fresh oil for every squad is touted as a move toward more fairness.
The one lane idea would IMO offer fairness to more bowlers than the fresh oil does.

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Re: My 2 cents about Baton Rouge
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2012, 11:29:08 PM »
You can't bowl team on one lane, never been like that and should,never be like that. If you do that, then league should,be like that. Plus, if you are only bowling on one lane, award scores wouldn't count, or should have an asterisk next to it stating bowled on one lane. Then you could argue bowling doubles on one lane also. Really, how could u even consider bowling just on one lane.