Author Topic: My Experience (Read 8757 times)

Strapper_Squared · « **on:** March 17, 2012, 02:32:00 AM »

Quick report. Bowled the team event tonight. I found the conditions to be nearly impossible. Decided to start outside. Had absolutely zero area. Miss a board outside and missed the head pin right... Missed two plus boards and it was ditch. Going the other way, zero hold. Anything slightly projected off left absolutely took off.
After starting terrible, moved inside and found nothing there.
Several 230+ average bowlers on the pair, high set was 570, and drastically dropped off from there (into the 400's)..

I don't even know what to say right now. Frustrating and disappointing... Not really looking forward to s/d.

S^2

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Edited by Strapper_Squared on 3/17/2012 at 0:33 AM

Mbosco · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:37:57 AM »

What equipment were you using?

northface28 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 17, 2012, 01:15:06 PM »

Thats brutal, id hate to spend that kind of money to go bowl 480 in team.

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kidlost2000 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2012, 01:37:38 PM »

Up 10 has no area to miss right. Outside of 10 you have to stand really far right with slow speed and surface to recover. If your ball doesnt hit 10 at the tracer down lane it likly wont strike.

Sing/dbles I finally moved left hitting 25-28 at the arrows and I had 15-10 down lane with that line. Used a shinned pin up wicked siege. Wish I had started hooking the ball sooner. Will say that playing up the boards left easy spares in the middle of the lane. Had i not kept setting the ball in the ob i would have made them lol. Its all about spares. You average190 you will own brackets.

"1 of 1."

HAMBONE · « **Reply #4 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:23:23 PM »

I dont know about that comment, I shot 1200 for D/S and didnt even get my money back.

222,222,178 195,178,205 I was in regular brackets AND reverse. I spent $120 per event.

Drop and give me 10

Strapper_Squared · « **Reply #5 on:** March 17, 2012, 03:48:47 PM »

Sorry... Overslept and nearly missed s/d this morning.

I had an awesome revs and wmb with me as "medium", had a nexxus solid above and a Khameleon below.

Relatively speaking, the lanes seemed a little more forgiving this morning. Still had very little miss room, but I felt like there was some sort of shot. Still only shot 480 and a 530 sets in s/d, but after team, that felt like an accomplishment. Last game of singles, I went pocket 7-10, pocket 7-10, 2,4,10, 4 pin, 10, sheet for 190 game.

Guy next to me shot a 730-ish in singles. Throwing a crossroad polished up..

S^2

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kidlost2000 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 17, 2012, 03:53:53 PM »

Put $150 in singles and doubles shot 450 550 and got back 250. Played regular and a few reverse.

"1 of 1."

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 17, 2012, 08:25:56 PM »

Thanks for sharing. Sorry you didnt score as well as you would have liked. Each year is a different learning experience which is the cool part about going out there. Hope you still enjoyed your time out there and best wishes for next year.

Peace doesnt always have to be silent.

strikeking · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2012, 01:42:58 PM »

Your report mirrors what I observed when I watched two teams from Florida on camera. The secret was the ten board at the down lane arrows. The real problem was if You miss inside the ball went high. If You miss outside the ball went wide. No area at all. These bowlers were starting from the 15 to 20 board at the first arrows and also a couple were going straight down 10, but if their ball did not break exactly on the 10 board down lane, they missed thr pocket. I assume the oil pattern is really flat and even at that point. With no area I guesss the best shot would be a "rocket to the pocket" from the corner to take the oil pattern out of play.

Strikeking

Strapper_Squared · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2012, 02:15:44 PM »

I think the solution is to convince all 10 bowlers to play straiight outside to start with some surface to create a little dry spot.. then slowly move in a touch and play off it. I had 10 people on my pair playing 10 different lines. The lanes never really had any room for anyone. The trick is for everyone to stick with it through the first game to game and a half before jumping inside... Sacrifice a little up front and make spares.

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Xx 12 X 300 xX · « **Reply #10 on:** March 18, 2012, 02:24:17 PM »

This tournament has now become a tournament that caters to the pattern carving "professionals" who use this to their advantage to bowl well and win this event.

If you don't have 10 guys with the same game plan, your not helping your cause to bowl well. To find 10 guys that want to bowl with a game plan isn't always easy. Game plans and bowling

?

The pattern this year is obviously too difficult for the "league" bowler, while this is the "league" bowler's championship tournament.

Other than the fact that it's nice vacation time, the tournament is for "professional" amateur bowlers and it shows.

Embarrassing the league bowlers is not the way to prove a point. Hopefully everyone enjoyed their vacation and forgets the embarrassment.

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230-n-up-or-bust · « **Reply #11 on:** March 18, 2012, 02:40:17 PM »

IMHO, from what our group has seen thusfar, using too much surface too early for too long as the team practices and helps carve an area in the pattern might serve to bait the group into migrating too much inside a little too early. Too much information..??...lol I think you get the idea. I watched the broadcast last night and thought PJ really had a great look for a fair amount of time playing outside of 10 while Danny O'Sullivan bumped WAY more left than I thought he should with too much surface/ball and wound up settling in with an Ulti Max around third arrow a LOT sooner than any of us have done to this point. He bumped in in his second game where 10 of us are playing in game three.

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Russell · « **Reply #12 on:** March 18, 2012, 02:47:18 PM »

I made a comment about you needing lots of help to really compete in team event....and I see some negative comments....but let's think about this....

"TEAM" event

Isn't "teamwork" part of "team" bowling? I mean if you're bowling league with a guy who throws a parking lot grit hookmonster across 4th arrow and blows up the middle, screwing the team every week, wouldn't you say something? I mean in a tournament where it's singles...sure...no carving...each man for him/herself, but this is a "team" event. Those that work together best...win. I mean how many "team" sports don't require all players on the field to work together to achieve a goal?

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Xx 12 X 300 xX · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2012, 02:50:57 PM »

But its a "league" bowlers tournament. There is no team playing in league bowling. The shot is wide open and you play where you play and you score as high as you can for your team. Your hosting a tournament for the mass members of the organization and then making them bowl a pattern that they have zero confidence in and nowhere near their comfort zone.

A tougher shot is fine for a tournament that is not for "league" bowlers. Your doing them a disservice if you put something out there that embarrasses them.

Somebody in another thread said they shot 395 in singles. Come on now, this is a good experience for the regular "league" bowlers?

Other than a vacation this tournament now is a delusional event if your not a "professional" amateur.

The USBC could do a better job with the lane conditions, and the embarrassment factor. That's all I am saying.

There is nothing wrong with a sport condition that plays around the 10 board, or track areas. The traditional scoring zones for league bowlers. When you start bumping them outside of that area, and creating mass chaos than there is going to be lots of low numbers. But you can spend $120 and your team can learn how not to embarrass themselves too bad.

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230-n-up-or-bust · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2012, 03:01:22 PM »

It's, primarily, a TEAM event. That's why they refer to singles & doubles as, "minors".

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