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Purpose of the Open
« on: March 09, 2015, 11:37:01 AM »
What is the purpose of the USBC Open tournament?

Is it to crown champions? To find the best bowlers in world for that tournament format?

Is it to make money for USBC to cover up loses due to declining membership?

Is it to educate bowlers who would have no other means to compete on sport conditions?

Or is it something else.

Personally I think it is all three.

Obviously they want to crown champions but by excluding some touring professionals they are not truly trying to find who the best of the best is.

Making money has become a huge part of Open tournament. The booster division shows that. If you were purely intent on identifying the best bowlers these bowlers wouldn’t be there. The brackets are primarily run to make more money for the tournament. Squeezing host cities and vendors makes more money for the tournament.
 
Education is probably on the back burner. The coaching sessions show they have interest in education but really what percentage of the teams that go get those coaching sessions.
 
Making money has probably become their primary concern because the USBC is going broke.  But the trend they are taking is going to kill that goose.
 
I’m all for tougher than house shot conditions. But if the predications are true on how tough the shot will be this year, many who go will feel they are being made to look stupid and will not return. Few boosters who go will want to go and average 110.

I’ve already seen a single’s score this year in the regular division who shot less than 310 for a series.  Yes he probably stunk at picking up spares, was inconsistent at release, speed varied, and couldn’t hit his mark but still.

I’ve gone for 30 years and will continue to go and have no chance at an eagle but to some degree if it gets where I cannot average 180 anymore I might have to consider not spending a grand to go.

 



 

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Re: Purpose of the Open
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2015, 12:06:46 PM »

You are probably correct in the three you listed, but perhaps I can add one more.

I feel that the Open is an excellent way to promote the sport of bowling. Sure, most bowlers who enter the tournament have zero chance of winning(realistic or otherwise), and at best will only earn "lunch money" for their effort. Most of these bowlers will also be donors in the brackets as well. However, as a bowler who is somewhat new to the sport, it has an allure that I always enjoy.

I went to my first Open in Las Vegas and loved every minute of it. I have not missed one since and organize multiple teams to bowl as a group. When it's in Reno, I try to get bowlers who have never been before so they can have the experience of the tournament. For the most part, the new bowlers are thrilled by the entire thing, even when they don't win anything. It's the experience they value. I have heard the phrase "Thank you for inviting me, that was so much fun!" many times and almost always by bowlers who won nothing. Of course there have been some others, usually the "elite" who walked away with the obvious sad face of a bruised ego too.

As bowlers get better, there seems to be some kind of mental change that comes over us that actually hurts the sport. The "elite" bowlers tend to get a condescending if not not downright destructive attitude about the lower average bowlers. Ironically, the Open helps put that in perspective, at least when it comes to the local house hacks. The oil pattern they put down is not that big of a change for Mr/Ms 150 +/- average, but the hotshot 200+ "king of the hill" house bowler, it's a serious comeuppance.

So, is the Open a chance to crown champions? Yes, it is.

Does it serve as a revenue source for a cash strapped USBC? Yes, it does.

Does it educate bowlers about how difficult sport shots can be? Very much so, especially the ones who have come to believe their local fame is worthy, but never step outside their local house.

I still believe that it's the best promotion for the sport and an experience that all league bowlers should try at least once.
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Re: Purpose of the Open
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2015, 12:57:44 PM »
^^^

Well said Milo!
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Re: Purpose of the Open
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2015, 04:04:45 PM »
One thing I think it is worth noting-and I agree with almost everything said so far- is about crowning champions. This tournament is our amateur national championship. The masters already exists where we as amateurs can bowl against the best of the best. This is the tournament that those guys chose to write off to chase TV and stardom. I would say money but come on, most of us make more than most of them. Lol

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Re: Purpose of the Open
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2015, 04:16:03 PM »
As bowlers get better, there seems to be some kind of mental change that comes over us that actually hurts the sport. The "elite" bowlers tend to get a condescending if not not downright destructive attitude about the lower average bowlers. Ironically, the Open helps put that in perspective, at least when it comes to the local house hacks. The oil pattern they put down is not that big of a change for Mr/Ms 150 +/- average, but the hotshot 200+ "king of the hill" house bowler, it's a serious comeuppance.

I agree with this statement. In fact many want those who they feel have inferior games to fail miserably.

I used to look at the tournament as a vacation venue and to see different parts of the country. But with constant return to Reno and reusing previous sites it has lost that appeal.

The inclusion of Las Vegas now means we will be visiting the same cities 2 out of 3 years. Vegas is at least easy to get to and has a lot of attractions other than bowling but it will eventually get stale as well.

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Re: Purpose of the Open
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2015, 05:07:16 PM »
As bowlers get better, there seems to be some kind of mental change that comes over us that actually hurts the sport. The "elite" bowlers tend to get a condescending if not not downright destructive attitude about the lower average bowlers. Ironically, the Open helps put that in perspective, at least when it comes to the local house hacks. The oil pattern they put down is not that big of a change for Mr/Ms 150 +/- average, but the hotshot 200+ "king of the hill" house bowler, it's a serious comeuppance.

I agree with this statement. In fact many want those who they feel have inferior games to fail miserably.

I used to look at the tournament as a vacation venue and to see different parts of the country. But with constant return to Reno and reusing previous sites it has lost that appeal.

The inclusion of Las Vegas now means we will be visiting the same cities 2 out of 3 years. Vegas is at least easy to get to and has a lot of attractions other than bowling but it will eventually get stale as well.

I totally agree with you about having the tournament at the same site over and over. As I said, Las Vegas was my first one, then we had Reno, Reno before going to Baton Rouge.  I really enjoyed the Baton Rouge trip as I'm in Reno 6 to 8 times a year for bowling even without the Open.

With having a Reno, Reno back-to-back after Baton Rouge, I'm ready for El Paso. I love the stadium and Reno is very convenient for me but I would love for the Open to cycle all around the country like it used to do. Syracuse will be a welcome change after another Reno cycle and a visit to the new Vegas facility.
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Re: Purpose of the Open
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2015, 09:17:58 PM »
just because you hook the house and have 10 boards at home doesnt mean you have to try that in the Nationals. a good spare shooter can straighten it out and shoot 180s-190s. Not that that's a score we go to shoot but if the alternative is 310, might need to try something different

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Re: Purpose of the Open
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2015, 01:48:32 PM »
I think it is also meant to be something of a giant convention.  A chance for bowlers to meet and observe bowlers from all over the country.  Crowning champions is nice recognition, and something many of us would love to have, but it is not really designed to find the best amateur bowler, just the guy who gets hottest in a short format at the right time. 

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Re: Purpose of the Open
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2015, 02:33:14 PM »
One thing I think it is worth noting-and I agree with almost everything said so far- is about crowning champions. This tournament is our amateur national championship. The masters already exists where we as amateurs can bowl against the best of the best. This is the tournament that those guys chose to write off to chase TV and stardom. I would say money but come on, most of us make more than most of them. Lol


I don't entirely agree that its an amateur championship. If I am not mistaken it is supposed to be an "Open" championship to any one who pays their usbc dues reguardless if they bowl for a living (on or off tv) or just show up for league once a week. This isn't the case which is a different conversation all together. Looking back in the early days I believe some of the best in history bowled the event including dick webber, don Johnson, jim stefanich, billy hardwick, etc. That was why originally the 2 division system was created. It has changed based on average now but it was different back then.
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