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Ron Vokes Video
« on: May 05, 2009, 01:36:07 PM »
There is a video of Ron Vokes bowling on the usopen webiste. What does eveyone think of it?
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2009, 09:58:22 AM »
There is no reason that no one has not shot 60 at the Masters except that it is the Masters and they stop themselves!

Especially before the course was changed!

It is that way just about everywhere....super low scores can be shot!

If they ever combined Johnny Miller/Sean Ohair's long game with Tigers short game it would be 62, 64, 63, 61 nearly everyday...everywhere.  And a few 59 and 57s for good measure on the good days!!

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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2009, 10:14:56 AM »
The two shots on the left lane looked pretty similar.  On the right lane, He left a 4 pin when he got the ball in a bit.  And when he got it out, it was flush.  It seems like the left and right lanes were a bit different.  

There are some bowlers out there who can create a lot of area.  I wish I could create that much area.  Congrats to Mr. Vokes.
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2009, 10:20:44 AM »
And I know his form isn't a Chris Barnes/Norm Duke perfect style, but many bowlers have done well with non-classic forms.  Like Ryan Shafer, Bob Learn Jr., Malott, Belmonte, etc.  Just use whatever works for you.  If you check out the post in the PBA forum, you can see videos of Jeff Richgels and the guy in 2nd place all events, Boresch.
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2009, 10:24:32 AM »
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You are dead wrong!!! There has never been a 60 shot at the Masters because it requires a miracle to do so. They put pins in the toughest of positions, they let the roughs grow fairly high before the event. They make it one of the toughest tournaments around, why, because it one of their most prestigious events. Just like the USBC's are to us. It USE to require great shot making ability and great decision making to make good money at USBCs. Now it is a joke and a strike fest. I am pretty sure you will NEVER EVER see a 60 shot at the Masters. Why because they take pride in making that course challenging and make it so that you have to be on top of your game to get there..
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2009, 10:43:30 AM »
Flip it around and make it as tough as the Masters.  IMHO people would then be complaining it is too tough, scores can't be shot even if they bowl really well, and entries would drop significantly.  Having someone put up a number like Ron makes every bowler feel like "Hey maybe that could be me."  IMHO it should benefit the tournament.  I would think that the vast majority of bowlers bowing in the tournament believe that it is a tough shot.  If you asked every person leaving the building if they thought the tournament was a strike fest this year, I think the answer would be more than 50% NO.  

The Masters in golf is for the best golfers in the world by invitation.  Joe Hacker cannot go out and play the Masters.  Anyone wanting to bowl in the USBC Open can if they pay the money.  Comparing this tournament to the Masters is a little bit of a stretch for me.  Comparing bowling's US Open to the Masters is a lot more conceivable.  And we all know the US Open pattern is not the easiest thing in the world to score on.  I agree that the USBC Open is the most prestigious event to the most bowlers.  But it is in no way a Major tournament in terms of the Masters.  IMHO Apples and Oranges.  

BTW Great Bowling Ron, I hope I can just come close.
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2009, 12:12:50 PM »
I agree with Riggs...

From the sounds of it the guy is great guy to be around and bowls to have fun.  The guy has been bowling the tourney for 24 years. He matched up with his ball speed, rev rate and had the right ball in his hand.  

He still had to execute shots.. no matter how much area he had.  What is he suppose to do try to hit 1-2 boards every time. You try to bowl the best you possible can with what the lanes are giving you. This year everything was right and he had area so he took full advantage of it.  There is a lot of people that may not be able to do that.  You still have to knock the pins down.

Great Bowling Ron !!!  enjoy the success
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2009, 12:19:31 PM »
Bowlers will not say "they feel they have a chance to shoot those numbers as well". I am dying to know how many people on these boards will say hey the guy shot 857 in singles. I can do that to I guess then. Ohh yea by the way you know your allowed to miss about 3-4 times at most to shoot that number?!

Give me a break, what world are you people living in. Big numbers just discourage others from thinking they have a chance. 95% actually it HAS to be more have never even shot 857 at their league on a house sho and what makes you think they can do it at Nationals?!!? Come on already
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2009, 12:27:34 PM »
His teammate only shot 671 in Singles.  If there was that much area, dont you think he would have shot in the mid-high 700s?
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2009, 12:36:53 PM »
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Bowlers will not say "they feel they have a chance to shoot those numbers as well". I am dying to know how many people on these boards will say hey the guy shot 857 in singles. I can do that to I guess then. Oh yea by the way you know your allowed to miss about 3-4 times at most to shoot that number?!


half the bowlers that go dont go to win, we've already established this on one of the other 10 topics about this..

we all know that scoring is huge now a days, who cares..alot of things have to go right for you on any shot out there to shoot 857.

cant we just stop complaining and take it for what its worth..i dont know this guy but from what ive read he's a nice guy and a good bowler, instead of complaining about scoring ust say hey congrats period..

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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2009, 12:44:45 PM »
George...welcome to my world.  Good luck trying to get through to some of these people.
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2009, 01:22:19 PM »
I wonder how many times Ron has shot 857 in league? I looked at his achievements online and it appears he has not. So if he can do it at Nationals why is it not possible for someone else who has never shot 857 to do it?  I guess if one person shoots a score like that everyone else should just assume they can't do it?  It has been done and it can be done again.
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2009, 01:51:08 PM »
I cant find the video, anyone have a direct link?
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2009, 01:52:59 PM »
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I cant find the video, anyone have a direct link?


http://www.bowl.com/tournaments/usbcopen/National/main.aspx

On the right side of the page under Video Highlights
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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2009, 06:09:12 PM »
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George...welcome to my world.  Good luck trying to get through to some of these people.


The above comment sounds elitist and may be one of the reasons why you can't get through to others as it appears that you think that only you or those that agree with you are right.


Quite honestly what difference does it make whether his shirt was tucked in or not.  Walter Ray Williams Jr.  has had his shirt partially untucked on more than once occasion bowling on TV.

As for making the Masters harder wouldn't you like to see a run like Jack Nicklaus made to win his last Masters title in 1986?  He would not have been able to make that run if they had the lengthened and tightened course that they play on today.  

Rant off.

Mark


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Re: Ron Vokes Video
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2009, 06:31:22 PM »
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George...welcome to my world.  Good luck trying to get through to some of these people.




Quite honestly what difference does it make whether his shirt was tucked in or not.  Walter Ray Williams Jr.  has had his shirt partially untucked on more than once occasion bowling on TV.

Rant off.

Mark


Walter Ray Williams shirt comes out when he is bowling because of his style, and he would never look like this guy who in my opinion looked like he was dressed to bowl cosmic bowling and not the National tournament.

Rant off.

Shipper
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