At Greenway Bowl in Odenton,MD, we ran the 2004 ABC Tournament shot every other week in our summer league and found that, eventhough we couldn't match the topography, of the National Bowling Stadium the oil pattern played very much like Reno. BTW, on alternate weeks we used a sport pattern from the Intercollegiate Bowling Championships and most of our bowlers found it much tougher than the ABC pattern. If we can get the 2005 ABC pattern, we plan to make it available at certains times for local Maryland bowlers to practice on before they head off to Baton Rouge. When these plans firm up, I'll come back on here and provide details.