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TDC57

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Someone explain to me.......
« on: March 17, 2005, 06:10:24 AM »
I will be going to the ABC tournament in April and all I read is how outside the 10 board is out of bounds. I grew up long oil era and you had to use  rubber, plastic and urethane balls. Someone has to explain to me why you if you use the the right ball and release how you can't play in at the pocket from the corner of the lane. I must be a bonehead but it defies logic that no matter how much oil they put out there that you can't play direct and score. That's how we did it in the 70s and 80s. I realize now it's about revs and hook but why shouldn't the old approach to oil work now?

 

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Re: Someone explain to me.......
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2005, 02:12:19 PM »
Down and in works with only the strongest driilling and coverstocks. However, if you point it directly at the pocket with a striaght shot, it may work.

TDC57

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Re: Someone explain to me.......
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2005, 04:34:44 PM »
Thanks Bob for the insight. I don't have a big hand when it come to hook and have always seem to be able to point in at the pocket if needed. I just thought if you don't have too aggressive a ball and keep your release right, you might be able to point it in. I'm a lefty and was hoping, due to nobody else being out there in my group, it might be a choice. My game is not given to swinging the ball much. I usually try to fit my release and equipment to the shot needed. I guess that probably won't work then.

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Re: Someone explain to me.......
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2005, 10:31:10 AM »
BOB,

Where did you play on the lanes personally in each event and what ball did you use?

What layouts do you feel will work there and on what types of balls?


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TDC57

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Re: Someone explain to me.......
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2005, 12:43:08 PM »
Thanks Never-Learn, I'll do that.

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2005, 03:23:21 PM »
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tony c,

check this forum for a post made a little earlier, maybe one month. there was a post by a man named, the hose. by all accounts, he is a pba touring level player or just short of that. he is a lefty and posted his experience with the ABC shot; it may help you.


That is funny stuff right there!

The Hose...

PBA Touring level?

You have now made my day and especially TheHose's day!

TheHose and I bowled together in Baton Rouge and he had a decent look from the outside.
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TDC57

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2005, 12:55:23 PM »
Just got back from Baton Rouge and thought I'd finish the thread I started. Well, I stuck to my game plan to play outside. If very sticky approaches hadn't caused problems the first game each day and allowed me to concentrate on playing the lanes instead of not getting hurt, I could have settled in quicker. That being said, I will say you can play outside. You're armswing must not go outside of you're target, it must stay in line. I started with a matte finished original Inferno but quickly changed to my new Ebonite Big Time, which gave me a real good look on the lanes.

If I could have avoided brain lock for about three stretches over the nine games I would have easily averaged around 200. Instead was in the 180s which was as good or better than most bowling on the lanes near us. I will say the lanes were extremely oily outside as advertised, but not nearly as dry inside as I have experienced in the past, especially in S&D. The backends seemed weaker in S&D than in the past also.

I'm glad I decided to play outside and wish the operator error hadn't happened, but I'm very satisfied overall with how I bowled.

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Re: Someone explain to me.......
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2005, 02:43:11 PM »
belch, you have not played on the ABC shot that is in Baton Rouge. The outside part of the lane stayed the same until the very end of each day, (very, very oily). It then opened up a little allowing me a bit more room. In no way did the shot ever blow up and it's ridiculous to think it will. The group of bowlers I participated with will also dispute saying it was gone after 15 frames.

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2005, 08:22:56 AM »
I thought this year was a little different in that I didn’t find the back ends as jumpy as in the past and overall the lanes played tighter. Still the most successful bowlers are not going very far away from the pocket.  

The ABC pattern usually is long enough that there is no free hook on the outside. Any shot thrown right would not recover and a shot cut short or left would overreact and would miss the head pin left. There simply was no room for error outside. Plus the penalty for bad shots was severe.  Bad shots at best missed the headpin and at worst split/washed out.

At Billings the gutter had a little extra friction and coupled with HPL back ends it was a playable shot. But using the proavilane this year this didn’t appear to be an option.



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Re: Someone explain to me.......
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2005, 11:35:53 AM »
Just got back and there are two former eagle winners
on our squad, along with another member who shot 800 in
singles one year, so I think this qualifies what I am
about to explain. No one shot outside the 12th board and
did anything. There is a guy, that bowls in my league,
(224 average, deadly accurate, down and in player). He could
string a few, throwing the point-in-shot, but would run a
wash or a uncovertable split. All the scoring was inside, from
38th board over 4th/5th arrow, out to about 13, no wider. The
balls that worked best for me were aggresive resin with a
ton of polish, and 5 X 4 1/2 drilling. Bring one aggresive
ball when you might hit a spotty pair, which I encountered in
singles. Shoot all spares over the 4th arrow, I saw to many
slide in the gutter when the plastics hit the heavy oil.
Hope this helps,

Thirtclean !
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