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Hi All,

I'm proud to present to you The Visionary OGRE Particle Video.

http://www.videoballreviews.com/ogreparticle.html

My Take on the Ball:

First let me say i am amazed at the interest in when this video was coming...the amount of e-mails and PM's i got makes me realize alot of you are getting the Visionary Fever!

The Ogre line is known for its great performances at a great pricepoint, and the Ogre Particle does not disappoint.  It really rounds out the Ogre Line nicely...

The Ogre Particle provides a unique reaction which is hard to come by.  A particle ball with a low differental core.  The low diff core provides excellent length for a particle ball, but you can see (and literally feel) this thing dig its teeth into lane.  This is a ball all tournament and league bowlers will want to have in their bag.  Tournament bowlers for the control it provides on tougher patterns.  League bowlers for the way it tames over/under shots.  On the house shot it was hard to miss the pocket, shots leaked right rolled off the dry without over reacting, while shots placed in the oil had no problem finishing.

Now as with ALL particle balls, you are going to have to know when to put this ball away.  It WILL roll out if you dont have enough volume, unless you have a good amount of ball speed.

Great new release from Visionary!

As always Comments and Questions are welcome!
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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 04:25:15 PM »
Wow, that ball looks super smooth and really does look like a great tournament ball, IMO.

I don't know, Visionary is calling my name or something lol.
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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 04:41:29 PM »
cool!

I like the look of the "rock" right away and I haven't even seen the vid yet...
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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 05:23:55 PM »
holy rolly batman!
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 05:31:08 PM »
Thanks Britton for posting this.


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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 07:53:09 PM »
Wow that ball reminds me of my wmb. Silky smooth roll...
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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 09:23:40 PM »
visionary has sucked me in... I think after watching the video theres a reason why people wanted to see it. rolly would be an understatment

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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2008, 12:28:42 AM »
Yes that ball looks beautiful rolling down the lane! Can't wait to get one in my bag!
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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 06:54:31 AM »
Nice look Britton!

 
quote:
Now as with ALL particle balls, you are going to have to know when to put this ball away. It WILL roll out if you dont have enough volume, unless you have a good amount of ball speed.

 


I'd agree but in your case with lower pin positions you'd see more roll out in OOB condition on less oil.  Higher pins may allow for less rollout for some.  But, that's not what the ball is for anyway.  

Ball motion looks to me to be same as Black and Purple Pearl very consistent roll.
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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 07:50:00 AM »
quote:
I'd agree but in your case with lower pin positions you'd see more roll out in OOB condition on less oil.  Higher pins may allow for less rollout for some.  But, that's not what the ball is for anyway.  

Ball motion looks to me to be same as Black and Purple Pearl very consistent roll.
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I agree scott, but as with other visionary particles, i have a feeling this ball is going to be a little more cover dominant than your average reactive ball, not anywhere near as much as an AMB Particle, but its gonna be hard to get this ball to do something other than its designed to do, which is roll, roll, roll with just a layout change...now what I have been told is that when you polish this ball, you can easily get more length, but it should retain that smooth backend reaction...i havent tried it personally, but plan too when things settle down a bit!

Added on edit:

you nailed it with the similar reaction to the ogre pearl, the ball is closer in reaction to the pearl than the solid in my opinion
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Edited on 7/17/2008 8:15 AM

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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2008, 08:11:00 AM »
Yep Britton.  Agreed!  Never have understood most that change the intended purpose of the ball to a shiny particle as some have done with the Granite.  It defeats the purpose of the ball IMO.  

1000 OOB?  That would be about right for most medium to medium-heavy conditions.  

Loved the Granite beard or fuzz as some call it.  I know I'll love the Ogre Particle's same coverstock.  Probably look a lil better than the ole concrete look of the Granite.  
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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2008, 10:02:36 AM »
Greal looking ball real smooth! wish I had a reason to buy it.

Britton what song is playing during the video?

nevermind on the song question, checked the end of the video again!
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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2008, 02:21:13 PM »
That is an interesting reaction from a particle ball....IMO.

Most of the particle I've thrown in comparison to reactives have almost always seen the reactive much stronger and cover more number of boards.  I find this with my Blue Centaur as well.  It is very interesting that the video clearly shows how 'reactive' like of a reaction the particle has.

Very interesting!!  Thanks for the vid and the post Britton.
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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2008, 02:28:19 PM »
i think this is what everyone wishes their particle ball would do. open up the lanes NOT more then their reactive but just as much.

im not saying that ball will always do that as ive had my carbide plus do that and then the next time out hook almost nothing compared to solid reactives. if it can do that time and time again when theres enough oil then thats an impressive particle ball. perhaps its due to the low flaring ogre core?

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Re: *~Visionary Ogre Particle Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2008, 02:38:09 PM »
I don't have one yet but I'll guess it has a very similar reaction to those that have owned/rolled a Granite.  Granite even with a bit more differential rolled much like Britton's video for me.  

Jason W. has said that the coverstock is much the same as the Granite.
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