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strikestriketapped

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Ogre Solid
« on: July 21, 2008, 04:06:10 PM »
I might have a chance to get one of these. For those who have it, what do you think about it both dull (OOB) and polished?
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Re: Ogre Solid
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2008, 12:08:20 AM »
you'll probably want to up the OOB surface to 2000 Abralon to be able to use it more often
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Re: Ogre Solid
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 01:19:02 AM »
I have mine at 1000 abralon, pin above and to the right of ring finger drilled 4x4.....

Works great for me..

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j195/Nellil/Ogre_plugged_and_re-drilled_4x4.jpg
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Re: Ogre Solid
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2008, 01:24:33 AM »
When I acquired one used, it was polished, and wouldn't read the lane at all.  I brought it down to 1000 and it rolls MUCH better now.

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Re: Ogre Solid
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2008, 07:22:41 AM »
FYI The Stock Ogre solid is finished to 600 grit US/CAMI.
1000 grit Abralon is P1000 (FEPA) = 500 grit US/CAMI scale.
If you sanded your Ogre to 1000 grit Abralon, it is now rougher and earlier than the stock finish.
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Re: Ogre Solid
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2008, 07:37:30 AM »
Jeff is correct per usual.

Use a 6448 green scotch brite to bring it back to OOB 600 matte per Jason.  

In case folks missed it on Ogre Pearl coverstock change thread........

Hello All,

OK here is how we finish our covers

Wet Sand - 3M wet/dry sandpaper hand sanded on a spinner (most have been 320)

Matte - Scotch Brite Pads hand sanded on a spinner
Burgundy - 400 matte
Green - 600 matte
Light Gray - 1000 matte

Abralon - Abralon pads on a resurfacing machine similar to the Haus. We used 2,000 abralon on the Gladiator Solid and 1,000 Abralon on the Ogre Particle.

Polish - 1500 buffing compound. This is a solid (non wax) buffing compound used on polishing wheels. Our polishing system is would be best described as an industrial sized Lustre King.

Hope this helps,
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Lillen

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Re: Ogre Solid
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2008, 07:41:49 AM »
quote:
FYI The Stock Ogre solid is finished to 600 grit US/CAMI.
1000 grit Abralon is P1000 (FEPA) = 500 grit US/CAMI scale.
If you sanded your Ogre to 1000 grit Abralon, it is now rougher and earlier than the stock finish.
 


Mine looks and feels less rough now than it did oob...  

There's no P on the abralon sheets/pads the pro shop where I get my stuff use...  

They look like this:  http://www.bowlingindex.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BI&Category_Code=PST&Product_Code=PS-EAPad

Just talked to Mirka here in Sweden and he said that abralon is the same worldwide, so if you in the US use a 1000 abralon pad/sheet it's the same 1000 grit as we over here in Europe uses...



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scotts33

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Re: Ogre Solid
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2008, 08:28:45 AM »
Take a look at this chart Lillen.  http://home.earthlink.net/~litefrozen/downloads/bowling_grit_chart.pdf

It gives the comparisons.
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Lillen

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2008, 10:51:06 AM »
Scotts - I've looked at the chart and seen the comparisons, but I'm only writing what the guy at Mirka told me...

Mirka doesn't make different abralon pads/sheets for different countries..
They are the same worldwide..
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charlest

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Re: Ogre Solid
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2008, 11:02:51 AM »
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quote:
FYI The Stock Ogre solid is finished to 600 grit US/CAMI.
1000 grit Abralon is P1000 (FEPA) = 500 grit US/CAMI scale.
If you sanded your Ogre to 1000 grit Abralon, it is now rougher and earlier than the stock finish.
 


Mine looks and feels less rough now than it did oob...  


It can be smoother if you've used the 1000 grit pad too much. Otherwise, technically, the grooves are wider than the 600 grit abrasive with which the ball was finished at the factory.

See http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=200118&ForumID=17&CategoryID=5
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There's no P on the abralon sheets/pads the pro shop where I get my stuff use...  

They look like this:  http://www.bowlingindex.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BI&Category_Code=PST&Product_Code=PS-EAPad

Just talked to Mirka here in Sweden and he said that abralon is the same worldwide, so if you in the US use a 1000 abralon pad/sheet it's the same 1000 grit as we over here in Europe uses...


True. Just be aware it is graded using the FEPA system. The EBonite pictures shown above demonstrate that.
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Re: Ogre Solid
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2008, 12:05:33 PM »
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Scotts - I've looked at the chart and seen the comparisons, but I'm only writing what the guy at Mirka told me...

Mirka doesn't make different abralon pads/sheets for different countries..
They are the same worldwide..


I understand Lillen...if I wanted to take a Solid Ogre either back to OOB or as close to OOB I'd be using scotch-brite not abralon...least that's the way I look at matte OOB surfaces on Visionary equipment.
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Re: Ogre Solid
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2008, 01:25:47 PM »
Wow, this has gotten a bit off topic.
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