Author Topic: B/G centaur (Read 2492 times)

River700 · « **on:** May 15, 2009, 12:25:57 PM »

Hey everyone. I have a question about the B/G centaur? Since this ball has a marked mas bias, but is very very mild, does it matter where it is place in relation to the pap? Why I am asking is that I am thinking about getting one and doing a 4 inch pin to pap inline with my ring finger cg straight down and a hole over and just down from my pap. What is the best place or distance to the pap for the mas bias? Stats in profile.

I need some info about this asap!!!! Thanks

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Juggernaut · « **Reply #1 on:** May 15, 2009, 08:32:51 PM »

River700,

I've had two B/G's and loved them both. I talked with Jason at Visionary about them many times before I got one.

His recommendation was to ALWAYS keep the MB very close to the thumbhole, on the strong side and the pin around the fingers.

Both of mine were drilled very similarly and both of them gave me EXCEPTIONAL performance on their desired lane conditions.
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River700 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 15, 2009, 08:35:52 PM »

Thanks Juggernaut for the info

So if I left the pin at 4 inches from my pap inline with my fingers and put the mas bias at 4 1/2 or 5, would that work on like a cheetah or viper pattern?
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #3 on:** May 15, 2009, 08:47:54 PM »

It is hard to say exactly what condition certain balls will work on for different people, but I can tell you that I have used mine on everything from light/medium oil ( with a dull finish ), to drier conditions ( with polish ) and had success with them. I've played them anywhere from up the ten board to swinging the lane and always had great carry rate and predictable reactions that I could count on from shot to shot.

For me, the B/G was a very predictable ball that deliverd predictable performance, but would also let you know when it was time to use a stronger piece. They have been a couple of the best light/drier condition balls I've ever used with reactive covers.
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River700 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 15, 2009, 10:42:43 PM »

Thanks Juggernaut

How did you lay out both of your B/G centaurs? why i am kind of interested in buying one of these is that I have a storm too hot and was wanting a similar ball that had a solid cover.
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2009, 09:12:32 AM »

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Thanks Juggernaut How did you lay out both of your B/G centaurs? why i am kind of interested in buying one of these is that I have a storm too hot and was wanting a similar ball that had a solid cover.
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Well, as luck would have it, I also owned a Too Hot at one time before I owned the B/G's. I had the Too Hot laid out pin under bridge with cg out a bit, but no x-hole. For me, I never really seemed to be able to "settle in" with the Too Hot. When there was oil I needed something stronger, but when they dried up, it seemed to read the dry too much and gave me erratic performance. I either shot a ton with it, or nothing at all.

Both my B/G's were laid out with the locator pin above the ring finger and the MB pin touching the LEFT side (weak side) of the thumbhole on one of them, and touching the RIGHT side (strong side) of the thumbhole on the other.

I had the "stronger" one at 1500 matte, and the "weaker" one polished over the factory finish. Depending on the oil condition, I have played them BOTH from down & in to swinging a 20 board break with great success.

Two seasons ago, I won the high series for the year at our center with my "weaker" one, shooting a 793 (dang tenpin!) with it while swinging the second arrow on a dry condition.

I DO NOT DUPLICATE BALLS!. I don't have any purpose for two balls that do the same thing. However, this ball was so good to me I made an exception. Now that I have gone down to 14lbs, I plan on getting another one as soon as I can. This is one ball I would like to always have in reserve. to me, it really is that good.
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River700 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2009, 05:12:53 PM »

Thanks Juggernaut, that really helped!!! I am glad that you were able to bowl so well with your two B/G centaur's. Do you happen to still have your two B/G centaurs? If not, do you know anyone else who is selling one in good shape?
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2009, 06:30:06 PM »

No, I don't have them any longer. A friend of mine bought them both when I told him I was dropping down to 14lbs. Sorry.

Keep your eyes peeled though. They pop up here from time to time, and I have seen a couple on e-bay not too long ago, so they can be found.
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golfnutFL · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2009, 08:32:36 PM »

You can try here...

http://www.cheapbowlingballs.com/bowling_balls/visionary/green_blue_centaur.php

River700 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:51:43 PM »

Thanks golfnut for the reference

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River700 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:32:16 PM »

Hi Juggernaut, here is a photo of a B/G centaur that I am thinking about.
If I were to buy this ball, what drill would be best, my pap is 5 3/8 over and 1/2 inch up. I would be using this ball on like a broken down house shot, the cheetah and viper pattern later on. I have around 16-17 mph maybe a touch higher.

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/NorCalBowler/1241294698.jpg

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River700 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2009, 08:03:43 PM »

ttt
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scotts33 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2009, 08:30:30 PM »

It should work but I can't see where the black locator pin is.........that locator pin is what's important. Is that it right of thumb 1" or so?

Here's a B/G of mine (I have two) and you can't see the pin but it's right of thumb looking at the label. http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q29/scotts33/?action=view¤t=VisionaryCentaur.jpg

I am 4 7/8" over and 0. I'd say that one is a good layout for length and reasonable back end on broken down shots and wet/dry playing on the oil line....depends on your stats. and how you like to play them.

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River700 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:57:21 AM »

Scott, it is about an inch and a half to the right of thumb hole.
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scotts33 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:21:04 AM »

That should work fine.
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