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Blue Warlock
« on: December 21, 2008, 03:07:03 PM »
Considering picking one of these up.  Does any one know anything about them?
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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2008, 11:16:35 PM »
One of my favorite balls.  Today it is good for medium conditions but you could sand it down to handle heavier oil (not the heaviest).  Very controllable and predictable ball reaction, even arcing.  For me it made a good benchmark ball.
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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2008, 11:24:26 PM »
Symmetrical or Assym core?
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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2008, 11:27:02 PM »
Pretty sure it was symmetrical although I never saw a 3D picture of the core.
There was no mass bias marking on it.


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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2008, 11:34:09 PM »
Here is a link to the Blue Warlock on Visionary's website.  It doesn't really have a good picture of the core but that is all that I remember seeing previously.



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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2008, 11:38:06 PM »
Well it looks like an interesting piece.  I think I might get one, but it might just overlap with my other stuff.
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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2008, 11:49:21 PM »
Try it, you'll like it.  

I am biased for it, since I have three of them drilled up and have used one very recently when I started to struggle again.  As I said, it makes a good benchmark ball for me to go back to and correct my game but probably not everyone will see it that way.



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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2008, 09:39:01 AM »
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=119

Nice Pic of the Core

Warlocks and the Sorcerer were a very smooth rolling because of the core.  
The extra coverstock and dense core design helps add extra punch at the pins.

They were a great first line for visionary.  

Anyone know if the blue warlock was the very first ball Visionary made?

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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2008, 09:44:40 AM »
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Anyone know if the warlock was the first ball Visionary made?


Warlock and Sorcerer were the first balls to come out in March of 97 then the DC Tours in early 98 was the way I remember it.
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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2008, 01:58:15 PM »
Thanks Scott
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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2008, 02:24:11 PM »
Now does anyone have the Blue Warlock and Red Sorcerer drilled up? How do those compare?
I have the sorcerer drilled up and was curious...
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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2008, 01:48:37 AM »
Nor Cal, I have both, but have not used the Sorcerer in a long time.  My leagues are on break until after the new year and I want to take a week off but I will try and remember to take both with me to practise next week. Hopefully I will find some oil on the lanes to get a better idea of how they compare.
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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2008, 07:21:06 AM »
If I remember correctly (small trip in the Way Back machine), the Sorcerer was very strong for a urethane, with a coverstock in the range of the old Blue Hammer, but with a stronger core. It rolled or tried to get into a roll pretty early. The Blue Warlock was more like a control ball, especially with the fairly rough stock 600 grit surface. It went slightly longer with, of course more backend, with respect to the Sorcerer.

I think both would work on medium oil today, maybe even a little more, but a bowler might need a little more ball speed to use the Sorcerer effectively than he would need with the BW (that early urethane lane grab). The BW's surface is, of course, much easier to modify than the Sorcerer's urethane.  

The BW might be a better ball for most average rev rate & ball speed bowlers with an 800 or 1000 grit (US) surface.
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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2008, 07:43:51 AM »
How would a shined Sorcerer work on a big wet/dry condition???
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Re: Blue Warlock
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2008, 10:25:57 AM »
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How would a shined Sorcerer work on a big wet/dry condition???


For Parkway Lanes?
I don't think it will handle that much oil. Shined, it probably won't, but the emphasis is on "probably".
Still think you need something like the Ogre solid or the Ogre Particle.
If you want to try a solid urethane, I have a 16 lb Hi-Flare Scout urethane sititng idle. It's all shined up, but it won't take much to dull it to, of, say 1000 grit.
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