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Rock77

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Comparison Help
« on: November 28, 2007, 11:41:25 PM »
Hey all, it's been a while since I've posted. But, I come to you with an inquiry regarding what Visionary ball(s) give a similar or same look as a Kinetic. I have the Kinetic and it is a great skid/snap piece, but I've felt as of late that I want to get rid of everything that I have that isn't Visionary.

My initial thought is a G3 Gryphon, but I've never seen one thrown so I'm not sure. I had an Immortal Pearl and it started up much sooner than the Kinetic does. My Kinetic is drilled pin over bridge, mb right of thumb. PAP is 5 1/4 over, I think. If I drilled a G3 the same way, will it give me a similar reaction and handle the same lane conditions as the Kinetic?? If not, what will?
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Re: Comparison Help
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2007, 07:57:54 AM »
I would say that you are on the right thought process. The other ball that comes to mind is the SS, but I have not seen it thrown. I don't know how you should drill it, but I think that would be the closest match.
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Re: Comparison Help
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2007, 07:58:54 AM »
I am not sure about the Kinetic and how it rolls Rock77 but for more of a skid-snap piece that has some oil handling ability I'd agree G-3.  It will handle some carry down.  I don't have an Immortal Pearl but from what I've seen it may jump a bit more off the spot at friction point and roll a bit earlier not much mind you.  The Bronze Centaur could be another choice but it will roll earlier and is not a skid-snap piece.
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Re: Comparison Help
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2007, 08:19:55 AM »
Well, for me, I get great length out of the Kinetic and then it turns left like someone kicked it. I really like the reaction I get out of it, but I love the Visionary stuff so much that I want to week out everything that isn't Visionary. So, I was thinking the G3 with the same drill.

I also looked at the SS, but the SS will not handle as much oil as the Kinetic, this much I know. I may still pick up an SS though.
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Re: Comparison Help
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2007, 10:11:47 AM »
G-3 will go long and kick left if the condition allows it.  House walls I'd generally say this would be the ball reaction you'd get.  

SS is a length skid nspa ball for lighter conditions wouldn't handle as much oil as the G-3 or I am assuming Kinetic.  

I have an SS drilled weak pin to PAP 5" pin over bridge and CG exactly below mid grip not kicked out.   Great ball for dryish torched heads as the SS will still clear the heads and have enough length in the midlane so that you won't get over reaction but will have enough pop in the pocket to carry well.  It is a ball that I am using more and more.
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Re: Comparison Help
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2007, 10:39:57 AM »
Rock77,

The G-3 is the better choice here over the SS Ogre based on the fact that you want a very strong skid/flip reaction.  The SS will skid but from my experiences with both balls, the SS seems to roll really hard(strong) rather than snapping like the G-3.

My thoughts are the cores are determining the difference in breakpoint reaction as I've experienced the G-3 definitely saves up more on the backend.  Both are exceptional balls.

If you wanted to have a little more control at the break then I would say the SS OGRE, but if you want to get in a little and really boom a ball, the G-3 is the answer.

In my opinion, I would get a G-3, drill it stacked 5 inches from your axis and get a SS Ogre and drill it 4 1/2 from your axis @ 75 degrees(drill angle).  Both would complement each other very nicely.

Best of luck.
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    Re: Comparison Help
    « Reply #6 on: November 29, 2007, 12:08:49 PM »
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    Rock77,

    The G-3 is the better choice here over the SS Ogre based on the fact that you want a very strong skid/flip reaction.  The SS will skid but from my experiences with both balls, the SS seems to roll really hard(strong) rather than snapping like the G-3.

    My thoughts are the cores are determining the difference in breakpoint reaction as I've experienced the G-3 definitely saves up more on the backend.  Both are exceptional balls.

    If you wanted to have a little more control at the break then I would say the SS OGRE, but if you want to get in a little and really boom a ball, the G-3 is the answer.

    In my opinion, I would get a G-3, drill it stacked 5 inches from your axis and get a SS Ogre and drill it 4 1/2 from your axis @ 75 degrees(drill angle).  Both would complement each other very nicely.

    Best of luck.
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    • Thanks for the input. That's some great information there. Yeah, I have quite a bit of other Visionary stuff so getting them to compliment each other isn't really a concern. I have various other balls to fill those voids. Either way, having both balls should fill valuable voids or replace other balls in my arsenal.
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