I wonder if Visionary has any planes to change there weight blocks ? I am not complaing at all about what they have , Just curious since the same design is in 90% of the current ball line.
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It seems so versatile though, similar balls act totally differant with drilling changes. I was curious if you were to put the amb on the pap with a weight hole, with the mb pin on the track area would you be able to drill the ball like  symmetrical ball then?

All my life I have heard the old axiom, "If it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT!" and it doesn't seem to be broken yet. With the ability to change the density of the caps or the body, you can end up with hundreds of permutations.

  Like Shelley, I'm not sure of the mb strength either, but I can tell you this about a friend of mine.

  He likes ebonite a lot and has several of them, with 2 being Total NV's that are drilled strong mb.  One is pin low and the other is pin high.

  I had an immortal pearl drilled strong that was WAY too strong for me, so I traded it to him for a gamebreaker that he didn't like.

  He told me after 2 weeks using it that the immortal pearl was the strongest ball in his bag, far out-performing the TNV's on oily conditions.  The Immortal pearl was drilled pin high and strong.

  I was surprised by the strength of the Immortal pearl coverstock and really couldn't get it through the heads due to the strength of the core and the cover combination.  He has more sideturn and more tilt, so it gets through the heads great, but is just flat out stronger than the ebonite TNV's, and I have watched him throw it to confirm it.

  At least in his hands, and he says it is the strongest ball in his bag.

P.S. The same friend also has the new storm attitude shift in factory finish, but it is drilled with a WEAK ( negative side of thumb ) mb placement.  He says the Immortal pearl will beat that one too.
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I'm not sure what the point of that would be.  If you want a symmetric ball with that core, buy an Ogre.

Suppose you drilled a hole to take weight out of the MB side so that it's more in line with the AMB side (assume for a minute that it makes sense to be able to do that, which I don't believe is true).  If that hole becomes the thumb hole, you've set 95% of the layout already and you've limited what you can do with the ball.  If that hole becomes the weight hole, then for most layouts, you'll end up with a real low hole (think RICO layout "low").  Meaning you'll have to get the CG below the midline to keep statics legal.  Again, you've limited your drilling choices and drilled what amounts to the weight hole before you've even laid out the ball and determined what the statics are.

I don't see that as working out very well.  By making it "symmetric" (which, again, I don't believe is true), you've tried to limit the extent that the reaction can be changed through MB/CG placement).  Part of the beauty of asymmetric cores is that the MB placement can be used to alter the reaction in interesting ways.  

Compared to asymmetrics, symmetrics are usually smoother and less sensitive to drilling and release changes (just ask Lanemasters), and if you want that type of behavior, you can either buy a symmetric ball in the first place or fake it with the proper MB placement (talk to Morich).

SH