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Title: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: dizzyfugu on September 30, 2007, 06:53:11 PM
What the hell is THIS? China fakes with VBP, MoRich and Track copy elements?

http://www.123bowl.com/ball.asp?ballid=3318
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.asp?ballid=3319
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.asp?ballid=3320
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.asp?ballid=3321

Anyone know? Look pretty, though.
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: Androooo on October 01, 2007, 06:07:18 AM
Hmmmm.... interesting.

Wouldn't mind trying them

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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: pnj1967 on October 01, 2007, 06:23:17 AM

Why, if these are fake would you support some thing that is taking away from a "Good American Company"  Family owned ???


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Hmmmm.... interesting.

Wouldn't mind trying them

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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: ChrispyBrownies on October 01, 2007, 06:41:57 AM
The first 2 you posted have some crazy colors mixed in them...I love the colors...
Besides that, that is weird that it even has VBP on the ball, yet visionary didnt give permission to put it on there...
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: Androooo on October 01, 2007, 07:43:06 AM
Wouldn't mind trying those weightblocks in the real VBP covers...
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: triggerman on October 01, 2007, 07:52:21 AM
did you notice it has a usbc stamp on it too?
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: gripnrip on October 01, 2007, 09:58:16 AM
The only way we can stop this kind of import junk is
DO NOT BUY THE PRODUCT.
We as bowlers here in the USA have other options on
bowling balls that are made here in the USA.
Someday it may come to be that all bowling balls
will be made overseas, but right know we still have
some options on balls made in the USA.

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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: KDawg77 on October 01, 2007, 10:00:47 AM
Those Chinese are amazing! What will they clone next?
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: triggerman on October 01, 2007, 10:07:49 AM
mini me!!!!!
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: dizzyfugu on October 01, 2007, 10:24:09 AM
quote:
Those Chinese are amazing! What will they clone next?


It's flabberghasting brand piracy. There had been some dubious balls of unknown origin with MoRich-like cores inside a year ago, and I can remember that someone posted a Chinese website where VERY blatant copies (I remember a ghastly Bully copy) were offered for export.
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: triggerman on October 01, 2007, 10:29:10 AM
they do it with golf clubs, why not bowling balls, and to be honest as more and more of our ball manufacturers look to go overseas it will only be a matter of time before everything is copied
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: jablosa on October 01, 2007, 11:24:52 AM
Yes they make knockoffs, but they don't have the brand name on them....That is BS if its true..
Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: triggerman on October 01, 2007, 11:34:25 AM
oh no, there are ping and calloway knock offs, it is a full time job for both companies to track those folks down, there isnt as much now, but 5 years ago, the market was shot full of knock offs.  It happens in everything my daughter wants a purse, coach brand, I beleive they cost 500+ told me i could get a knock off for under 100, how does my 13 y.o. know about knock offs.  happens everwhere with everything
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: Grayson on October 01, 2007, 01:43:26 PM
well... as long as they don't try to make fakes of already release brand names it is ok with me so I don't get a fake into my hands I though was something else!

anyway it is a shame and it is hard to fight this as the chinesse e.g. even tolerate this as it is a big income to the country
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: charlest on October 01, 2007, 06:17:09 PM
I'm NEVER buying any of those.

How can the USBC, a United States corporation, sanction these blatant copies?

Aren't there trademark or copyright or patent infringements involved?

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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: Strider on October 01, 2007, 06:25:22 PM
Maybe the USBC stamp is faked like the rest of the logo's?  Heck, it might be interesting to buy one to cut it open.  There's no guarantee that the core pictured is indeed inside.
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: CaliBowler300 on October 01, 2007, 07:22:06 PM
Anyone know where I can buy one of these? I can't find it anywhere. LMK
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: Oskuposer on October 05, 2007, 09:34:36 AM
Maybe it has the new Killer coverstock.  It made of Lead very good bargain for POS
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: KDawg77 on October 05, 2007, 09:42:26 AM
It's their new vessel for smuggling in counterfeit medicine.
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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: tgs300 on October 05, 2007, 10:31:43 AM
It looks like they might be usbc approved....

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Edited on 10/5/2007 10:49 AM
Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: Cambumbo on October 05, 2007, 11:02:32 AM
Check out the phone:

http://www.bluelans.com/product_396.html
Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: qstick777 on October 05, 2007, 01:58:59 PM
I'd have to wonder about the logo, but the Rakion is produced by Via Bowling Products - VBP.

http://www.viabowlingproducts.com/products/09consumer.htm


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Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: pop_1 on October 05, 2007, 02:09:38 PM
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 Posted: 10/5/2007 10:31 AM    
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It looks like they might be usbc approved....

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http://www.viabowlingproducts.com/products/09consumer.htm


What about the Klaus?  It looks like it has a Gargoyle core.

http://bowlingmall.co.kr/shop/step1.php?number=2201
Title: Re: Faked VBP balls?
Post by: qstick777 on October 05, 2007, 03:31:29 PM
quote:
quote:
 Posted: 10/5/2007 10:31 AM    
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It looks like they might be usbc approved....

Maximum Bowling Service Rakion Mar-2007
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Who/what is Maximum Bowling Service?

More info here...

http://bowlingmall.co.kr/shop/step_submain.php?orderby_bq=&research_b=&b_code=B20021119085725&m_code=&c_code=&pagenow=3

http://www.viabowlingproducts.com/products/09consumer.htm


What about the Klaus?  It looks like it has a Gargoyle core.

http://bowlingmall.co.kr/shop/step1.php?number=2201


That ball actually has Visionary/USA listed as the manufacturer.

The other balls have VIA/China listed.  

It's the 6th item down, and pretty much the only thing in english on the page!
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