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roaddogg

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PBA
« on: August 09, 2008, 12:29:09 AM »
I know we talked about it over and over again. But i think that Visionary makes plenty of money to be registered with the PBA. I know i would not mind paying a little more for there product if they were to be with the PBA. Is there any new thoughts or comments about that. Also is it going to change down the line

 

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Re: PBA
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2008, 11:47:49 AM »
This is what I have always loved about VBP.  The fact that the head honcho gets on here and keeps us informed of MOST EVERYTHING pertaining to the VBP Company and doing so in a very courteous manner.  I also like that fact that Jason does not shy away from telling us to "fire away" and ask him anything and always quick to respond.
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Re: PBA
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2008, 10:24:51 PM »
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I hope this helps explain our position a little bit, and I would be more than happy to answer general questions.  Please don't ask for specific details on costs, total production, sales etc, because those are confidential and I cannot give out specifics.

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Edited on 8/13/2008 3:52 PM


May I ask roughly how much it is for the grassroots? As I have said previously, I am not dropping Visionary equipment, so whichever way you decide to go I'll still be throwing y'all...just would like to know  about how much it costs...

Thanks for the great Customer Service...as always!

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Re: PBA
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2008, 10:56:51 PM »
It is decidedly a lot of money to put out to be registered.  What is the
return?  The PBA and the TV announcers do nothing to promote any equip-
ment, they don't even mention any names.  The women do more by promoting
"what's in the bag."  Why pay out the money and get nothing in return?

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Re: PBA
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2008, 12:51:58 PM »
Hi BigWilly,

If I remember correctly, the All Tour Registration was in the neighborhood of $65,000 which allowed us to have the equipment used on any non televised PBA event.  The Grassroots I believe was in the neighborhood of $45,000.

Part of the reason that we did not go grassroots, is because a large number of regional bowlers are dropping their cards.  Unfortunately, with expenses and prize funds the way they are, it is getting harder and harder for a regional player to break even, and virtually impossible for them to make any significant money.  Many of the good regional players are pulling away from the PBA in order to bowl in the more lucrative amateur tournaments.  You can make more in one of these, than you can winning 5 regional events.

The other thing about the regional program, is that it has no fan base.  The only people watching the regional tournaments are usually family of the bowlers, so we get virtually no exposure from the tournaments.  

Thanks again,
Jason Wonders

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Re: PBA
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2008, 12:53:01 PM »
Hi BigWilly,

If I remember correctly, the All Tour Registration was in the neighborhood of $65,000 which allowed us to have the equipment used on any non televised PBA event.  The Grassroots I believe was in the neighborhood of $45,000.

Part of the reason that we did not go grassroots, is because a large number of regional bowlers are dropping their cards.  Unfortunately, with expenses and prize funds the way they are, it is getting harder and harder for a regional player to break even, and virtually impossible for them to make any significant money.  Many of the good regional players are pulling away from the PBA in order to bowl in the more lucrative amateur tournaments.  You can make more in one of these, than you can winning 5 regional events.

The other thing about the regional program, is that it has no fan base.  The only people watching the regional tournaments are usually family of the bowlers, so we get virtually no exposure from the tournaments.  

Thanks again,
Jason Wonders

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Re: PBA
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2008, 11:12:17 PM »
If Jason would hire me, I could be a traveling sales type bowler person, out selling George Palumbo and making a ginormous dent in the number of balls needed to make money at the Grass roots level!!  You know I make every ball look great!!

Really, the only reason I haven't tried any Visionary stuff is because I have been still bowling regionals.  Their stuff is good, sold some in my shop.

Keep up the good work Jason!!


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