Post by: VideoBallReviews on April 13, 2008, 11:15:40 PM
Special thanks to Jason for getting this piece out to me early. I went with the same layout as my gladiator solid.
On Edit: PICTURES!
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First off this thing is really sweet looking, this thing has great shelf appeal...everyone who saw it asked what i was throwing and that they really liked the colors...i will get pictures up later tonight
As far as reaction goes its exactly what i thought it would be...a longer more angular version of the gladiator. The move it makes in the back reminds me of an Ogre SS, but a little more controllable. It reads the midlanes much better than the SS also. I was able to get in with it pretty easily and wheel it off the dry without a problem, as long as it saw dry it made a big move in the backend...
Like all polished pearls tho, carrydown was not its friend...im anxious to knock the polish off and see what it can do, but i like the OOB reaction alot so i may leave it alone for awhile and just let it track up and see what happens
In the end, it seems like a combination of the control of a gladiator with the backend motion of an SS...another great ball from V B P!
Look for a video in the next few weeks...
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Edited on 4/14/2008 5:07 PM
Post by: Krumpy300 on April 14, 2008, 07:32:15 AM
Would love to see a SS and GP side by side comparison
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Post by: scotts33 on April 14, 2008, 07:38:58 AM
Nice review Britton!
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Post by: mainzer on April 14, 2008, 08:02:15 AM
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I was going to try to get one for Willow Creek upcoming next month. 4:1 flat pattern but I think my weaker drilled SS will do fine as there is not much carry down present.
Nice review Britton!
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SS should be more than enough for Willow, the lanes dried really fast for us, I was using my Awesome Finish drilled with the ring finger in the pin ball is pretty tame, and it was just flying after the first game.
Can't wait for the video Britton good review.
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Edited on 4/14/2008 8:02 AM
Post by: VideoBallReviews on April 14, 2008, 08:09:24 AM
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Thanks for the review Britton, looking forward to seeing the video.
Would love to see a SS and GP side by side comparison
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I may do that in the video, i kind of look at it like this
Gladiator is to Ogre Solid as Gladiator Pearl is to Ogre SS...
The Gladiator and Ogre solids complement each other nicely, the Ogre is better for playing straighter, while the gladiator lets me cover more boards and hook it a bit more thanks to the Higher Diff and Stronger Cover...i see the Pearls (Gladiator Pearl and SS) being the same way, the Ogre SS will allow you to play straighter angles and more into the dry, while the Gladiator Pearl will allow you to get in and cover more boards.
Again thats just my inital impression as i only have about 6-9 games on the ball, but we will see...
Hope that helps!
And thanks Scotts and Mainzer...
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Post by: Lillen on April 14, 2008, 09:00:13 AM
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Post by: VideoBallReviews on April 14, 2008, 09:55:27 AM
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And if you compare the Gladiator Pearl vs the Ogre Pearl?
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SO far it seems like the gladiator pearl will be able to cover more boards and is more angular in the backend...my ogre pearl reads the midlanes nicely, but when i have to move in with it its 10 pin city, it just doesnt create enough angle off the dry...
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Post by: VideoBallReviews on April 14, 2008, 05:08:51 PM
Heres a link and there is one up top
http://www.putfile.com/album/185298
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Post by: dizzyfugu on April 14, 2008, 05:14:20 PM
Thanks for the real life pictures!
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Post by: Kevspins2 on April 14, 2008, 05:35:47 PM
Post by: BowlerKidR on April 14, 2008, 06:06:22 PM
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what an ugly ball.
On the contrary, i find this to be a very appealing bowling ball.
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Post by: dropptonhed on April 14, 2008, 06:36:12 PM
Post by: WSUstroker on April 14, 2008, 07:02:41 PM
Colors remind me that of some of the MoRich stuff like the UglyRevs.
But hell, if the ball rolls good, who cares?
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Post by: Rock77 on April 14, 2008, 07:59:28 PM
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Post by: Hogsharley on April 14, 2008, 08:10:16 PM
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Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on April 14, 2008, 08:19:39 PM
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Post by: Lillen on April 14, 2008, 11:05:05 PM
But I understand if it was to dark so you had to use the flash..
Post by: BigWillyStyle on April 20, 2008, 08:48:24 PM
Gladiator Pearl vs. Green Gargoyle?
I ask this, as I haven't used any newer Visionary (have only used Gargoyles and older...except for Purple Ice Executioner....and that was just bad bowler/ball combo). I am interested in a newer ball from VBP, and was very impressed with how the Gladiator Solid looked at Nationals booth, but didn't have funds at the time. Probably trading locally for an Ogre Solid, but would like to pick up a new VBP pearl as well. Guy was offering his Ogre SS to me, but figured if you could gimme an idea as to how your new beauty would compare to (arguably) the best Visionary pearl ever, then i would gladly take in any knowledge avaliable. Thanks for your time...
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Post by: BigWillyStyle on April 20, 2008, 08:50:52 PM
).Big Willy Style
PS...sorry for the double post.
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Post by: dzrtrnr on April 20, 2008, 11:43:42 PM
at the USBC and he said the Ogre SS uses the Green
Gargoyle coverstock. Hope this helps.
Post by: VBPadvertising on April 21, 2008, 09:40:17 AM
Just to clarify, the SS Ogre uses a material pretty similar to that of the Green Gargoyle, but they are not the same. The general backbone of the reactive urethane is pretty similar, but there are different additives that give the cover slightly different characteristics.
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Edited on 4/21/2008 2:35 PM
Post by: dzrtrnr on April 21, 2008, 02:24:52 PM
dzrtrnr.
Post by: mrbowlingnut on April 26, 2008, 11:02:25 PM
For mid priced balls they roll very good smooth and great hit to them both, The GP smoothed the pattern out it was not a big jumpy type of move even with the crazy rev rate George has.
Post by: Mvpbowler on April 27, 2008, 12:57:18 AM
Layed out it 5 x 4 with a medium hole down to get it started up a little earlier. I will work on getting a picture up.
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Post by: Lillen on April 27, 2008, 03:12:54 AM
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I believe its assymetrical by design, but the MB strength (int. diff) is not strong enough to warrant marking a MB...
I was talking with Jason and he said the reaction can be fine tuned by moving the mohawk around...just imagine a strip 2" wide running through the pin and cg...I would love to drill up like 4 or 5 of these and move that MoHawk around and turn it different angles to see what slight variations i could come up with...but like scotts said all standard symmetrical layouts will work, jason also told me he has one drilled label and he really likes the way it rolls, i have been thinking about doing this with my second one...if i do i will let you all know how it works
Edited on 4/27/2008 3:14 AM
Post by: TWOHAND834 on April 27, 2008, 09:02:34 PM
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Post by: BigWillyStyle on April 27, 2008, 10:23:26 PM
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In comparing the Glad Pearl to the Green Gargoyle, the GP is going to be way stronger. With similar drillings and cover prep, my SS Ogre is a couple feet sooner and a touch more controllable at the breakpoint than the GG. Now, the Gladiator Pearl is going to handle more oil than the other two balls mentioned above. I would expect the Glads to be a compromise between the Executioners and the AMBs since both lines are discontinued.
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thank you for the side-by-side.....-by-side ball comparison (though I know that you are basing GP off others experience). I am very interested in getting my hands on a GP, since the 1 problem the GG gives me is that carrydown steals the shot away instantly. 1 minute I'm flushing pocket, and then the next frame on that lane...through the 2 pin. UGH!
Anyway, thanks for the heads up on the Ogre also. Can't wait for the GP to hit shelves...got a lotta $$$ coming in May, and can't wait to do the VBP Platinum membership.
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