Author Topic: Gladiator Pearl vs NB Pearl (Read 1761 times)

cappy718 · « **on:** April 11, 2010, 01:23:30 PM »

How big is the difference between these two balls? I have a Gladiator Pearl already, but am eyeing a NB Pearl. Will the NB give me that different of a look? Cover more boards? etc? Thanks all you visionary experts here. I love my Gladiator, but it is my first Visionary ball (which will not be my last!).

Here's how my gladiator is set up. The NB has a very similar set up to it. (Its used!)

http://s573.photobucket.com/albums/ss177/Capodice_2009/Bowling/?action=view¤t=GladiatorPearl.jpg&setId=1301

Thanks again yall!

scotts33 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2010, 09:46:23 PM »

You have a stacked layout so if you layout a NBP the same way on a house condition it will blend out the NBP....so I doubt you will see that much difference.

Now a G-3 you would see some more strength than a GP for a Vis. pearl.
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cappy718 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11, 2010, 09:56:10 PM »

After looking at the numbers and seeing the GP and NBP are close to each other, I think with a similar drilling I wont see much of a difference. I would have to alter the drilling on one of them to see some sort of a difference I guess. Guess I''''ll just stick with the GP. I love the ball

If anyone else has any insight, let me know! Thanks!

Here''s a pic of the NB...

http://s573.photobucket.com/albums/ss177/Capodice_2009/Bowling/?action=view¤t=NB.jpg

Edited on 4/11/2010 11:55 PM

gsback · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2010, 04:43:20 AM »

I have both balls and while they are drilled basically the same, I have the Glad Pearl polished and the NB Pearl in OOB finish.

With that combination, there is a considerable difference between the two!!

The NB Pearl is earlier rolling and overall, stronger on the backends. This allows me to play it earlier whereas the Glad Pearl I will use as the lanes break down even more.

Personally, I like that combination as I don't see the Glad Pearl as one to overact much....just a nice continuous roll.
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scotts33 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2010, 08:30:56 AM »

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I have both balls and while they are drilled basically the same, I have the Glad Pearl polished and the NB Pearl in OOB finish.

Gary,

They both some 1500 polished OOB. How are yours different in surface?

I say if used on a THS the lane condition blends the strength out. On flatter more difficult conditions then you may see more difference between the two.
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Scott

cappy718 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2010, 09:00:35 AM »

This summer I will be bowling on a PBA league (sort of) that our house is putting out for us. It's basically going to be a normal league, but they are going to toss out a diff. PBA pattern each week for us to get some practice on them. I just dont want to have basically the same ball reaction. I'd rather spend my money on something that will help me on different conditions.

scotts33 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 12, 2010, 09:11:16 AM »

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This summer I will be bowling on a PBA league (sort of) that our house is putting out for us. It's basically going to be a normal league, but they are going to toss out a diff. PBA pattern each week for us to get some practice on them. I just dont want to have basically the same ball reaction. I'd rather spend my money on something that will help me on different conditions.

I'd suggest you don't drill everything with a stacked layout if you are bowling on flatter/tougher conditions. A pin down that smooths out the over under and balls that work well on sport type conditions. Ogre's (Solid & Pearl) are good arcing reaction sport type balls. Stacked layouts react to hard off friction and are harder to control. See your driller.
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lenstanles703 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 12, 2010, 09:27:47 AM »

I would go with the Ogre line if you want a different look.
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cappy718 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 12, 2010, 09:42:00 AM »

I have a Break S75 and a NVS with the pin down. (I think the pin is down on the NVS). Either way I know the NVS is not stacked. I like the NBP, but like I said, I dont want to duplicate a ball reaction that I already have. I could get an Ogre solid as well, but drilling is stacked like my gladiator.

scotts33 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2010, 09:58:24 AM »

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I have a Break S75 and a NVS with the pin down. (I think the pin is down on the NVS). Either way I know the NVS is not stacked. I like the NBP, but like I said, I dont want to duplicate a ball reaction that I already have. I could get an Ogre solid as well, but drilling is stacked like my gladiator.

Both the Break S75 and NVS are high differential balls with a lot more flare than any of the Ogre's so I'd take that into account. On sport type patterns, I always try to close down angles on fresh and stay straighter thru the lane.
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Scott

cappy718 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2010, 12:36:24 PM »

Crazy thing is my GP is hooking more than both the NVS and the S75. My PS guy is trying to tell me that the S75 is a down and in ball and that I need to get out of the oil. Of course that's after he had to resurface it for his machines gouging my ball. He put the ball at 1000 per my request, but then put 4 coats of moon shine on it....now it just skids like nuts unless I slow ball speed down to 13 at end of lane. Frustrating cuz I was doing great with this ball, just gotta get the polish off of it.

gsback · « **Reply #11 on:** April 12, 2010, 01:40:28 PM »

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Gary,

They both some 1500 polished OOB. How are yours different in surface?

I say if used on a THS the lane condition blends the strength out. On flatter more difficult conditions then you may see more difference between the two.

Glad Pearl was 2000 polished I think and it makes more than a difference in the finish, even on a THS.

While they may roll strongly, the Glad Pearl is longer and the finish not as crisp as the NB Pearl.
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scotts33 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2010, 01:49:44 PM »

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Gary,

They both some 1500 polished OOB. How are yours different in surface?

I say if used on a THS the lane condition blends the strength out. On flatter more difficult conditions then you may see more difference between the two.

Glad Pearl was 2000 polished I think and it makes more than a difference in the finish, even on a THS.

While they may roll strongly, the Glad Pearl is longer and the finish not as crisp as the NB Pearl.

All Visionary pearls as far as I know come from St. Louis @ 1500 polished unless you changed it Gary.

I've seen your drilled balls everything is laid out stacked they all have to roll off the spot hard.

Anyway the taller Serpentine core vs. the fatter shorter Mohawk core gave me a different roll. I spun a Glad. Solid and an NBP and NBPP on a DeTerminator....spin time is shorter on the Gladiator's and longer on the New Breed's. I surmise that the reason you see more length and then forward off the spot with the New Breeds is the PSA of both cores. (that is why I didn't match up with the New Breeds...didn't like that forward roll off the spot and I didn't drill them stacked....if I did it again I'd drill the snot out of them) Plus add in the cover and then if you bowl on THS walls that blends out a lot of ball motion. Just my take.
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Scott

cappy718 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 12, 2010, 02:07:17 PM »

LOL...y'all got into some confusing terms here now. Deliminators and exterminators...I thought we were talking about bowling?!?! ha! So I am gathering that these two will have a different look, but not too much of one. The NB hooking a little more than the GP.

gsback · « **Reply #14 on:** April 12, 2010, 03:19:10 PM »

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All Visionary pearls as far as I know come from St. Louis @ 1500 polished unless you changed it Gary.

Yep, had it changed when I got it drilled up. Wanted something to get a little longer.
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