Nor Cal, bltbyj, J_w73,
Here is my $.02 on what I'm seeing with your layouts and with many other bowlers I've dealt with in the past with regards to this ball and other balls like it.
The Immortal Solid is a the stongest ball ever made in the bowling industry, PERIOD!
Sadly enough, people have mis-drilled this ball numerous times because they didn't understand just how strong it really was because nothing compared to it, hence the reason other manufacturers scrambled to make big hooking balls to compete with this juggernaut.
Now, with your situations, based on the pics, i agree with Scotts. The pins are low, 1 to 1.5 inches right of your ring (nearly leverage for most), this ball will begin to come off it's axis rotation as soon as it encounters enough friction to do so (at 1000, it doesn't take much).
There are 5 types of bowlers and these are the layouts I potentially layout for them on the Immortal Solid, adjust cover accordingly:
Speed Dominant - Leverage to 4 inches (drill angle 20-40, val angle 40-50)
Slightly Speed Dominant - 4 to 4.5 inches (drill angle 20-50, val angle (40-50)
Match - 4.5 to 5 inches (drill angle 40-70, val angle 50-70)
Slightly Rev Dominant - 5 to 5.5 inches (drill angle 60-80, val angle 50-70)
Rev Dominant - 5.5 to 6 inches (drill angle 80-105, val angle 60-80)
If you're able to measure your angles, it would be interesting to see where your style and those angles fall into the listing above. I tend to fall between match and slightly speed dominant so I use the angles to help me create the ball reaction I see myself needing on certain patterns.
More to come...let me know your thoughts....I hope you find some of this information useful. Scotts33, i agree with your analysis, hopefully this helps in isolating the issue from a technical view.
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