Author Topic: Looking at Visionary (Read 4882 times)

Jorge300 · « **on:** April 20, 2012, 01:17:06 PM »

When I lived in the States, I didn't look seriously at Visionary balls. Not because I didn't think they were good, but because I bowled 1-2 PBA Regional tournaments every year. Last thing I wanted was to really like one of their balls, then not be able to throw it in the Regionals. I now have moved to Canada, and am not bowling Regionals, so I was relooking at Visionary. But now I can't find anyone that sells them around here, lol. But I wanted to get the opinions of those on here on Visionary equipment and my thoughts on ball choices.

I am bowling in a PBAX league currently. The house plays extremely slick (or they aren't putting the shots out correctly, lol). My stats are: PAP - 4 11/16 over x 3/4 up, about 18.5-19 MPH, about 390 RPM, and 26 degree tilt. My thoughts were looking at the Mixed Breed Solid and Pearl. Drill the solid up for Shark and other longer patterns and the Pearl for Viper and THS (which I assume will play a little oiler in this house as well). If anyone has any thoughts on these choices, recommended drillings, and has any info on the best way to buy Visionary in Canada, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for the help.

Jorge300

MI 2 AZ · « **Reply #1 on:** April 20, 2012, 03:58:13 PM »

Jorge, why don't you contact Visionary directly and ask Jason? He has been very helpful to others who had questions on ball choices and layouts. He could probably help you in finding someone in your area who sells Visionary equipment.

You can find the contact info here.

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Jorge300 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 20, 2012, 04:02:23 PM »

Thanks. I have seen others talking about a "Jason" from Visionary, but didn't know who it was and how to contact them. And I totally missed the email addresses on the form page. So I will do so. Thanks for your help.

MI 2 AZ wrote on 4/20/2012 1:58 PM:
Jorge, why don't you contact Visionary directly and ask Jason? He has been very helpful to others who had questions on ball choices and layouts. He could probably help you in finding someone in your area who sells Visionary equipment.

You can find the contact info here.

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MI 2 AZ · « **Reply #3 on:** April 20, 2012, 04:15:41 PM »

Jorge, sent PM.

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scotts33 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 20, 2012, 04:21:30 PM »

Ball layout with the VBP z-spinners is critical. Suggest you have your driller spin them and find PSA or get a hold of Jason W. and have him help you layout. You could turn a z-spinner into a turd if not careful.

Normally on house patterns, I don't find enough volume to use any of the higher total hook z-spin Mixed Breed balls so I can not comment.

Scott

Wilbert · « **Reply #5 on:** April 20, 2012, 05:10:51 PM »

If interested, I have a NIB AMB particle (color blem) or a used AMB particle both 15lb. Probably one of the most hooking ball tthere is.

Jorge300 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 20, 2012, 05:27:25 PM »

Thanks for the offer. I throw 16lb though.

Agree with your statement though, from what I have seen with others throwing it.

Wilbert wrote on 4/20/2012 3:10 PM:
If interested, I have a NIB AMB particle (color blem) or a used AMB particle both 15lb. Probably one of the most hooking ball tthere is.

Jorge300

Jorge300 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2012, 05:27:47 PM »

Replied. Thanks.

MI 2 AZ wrote on 4/20/2012 2:15 PM:
Jorge, sent PM.

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Jorge300 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 20, 2012, 05:30:38 PM »

Scott,

Thanks. I have seen this mentioned before. Definately will contact Jason W. to find out more, as I don't think the Pro Shop here has seen these types of balls before. I have heard that the Pearl is strong, but with my ball speed, I might be ok. I'll just have to see. Thanks for the info.

scotts33 wrote on 4/20/2012 2:21 PM:
Ball layout with the VBP z-spinners is critical. Suggest you have your driller spin them and find PSA or get a hold of Jason W. and have him help you layout. You could turn a z-spinner into a turd if not careful.

Normally on house patterns, I don't find enough volume to use any of the higher total hook z-spin Mixed Breed balls so I can not comment.

Scott

Jorge300

bcw1969 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 20, 2012, 06:17:48 PM »

You can also check out www.bowlerscellar.com a nice selection of older and some recent visionary stuff. You could check out a burgandy particle gryphon there..suppossed to be good for heavy oil.

Brad

Matt C · « **Reply #10 on:** April 23, 2012, 10:27:42 AM »

As long as you have some volume the MB pearl will be a good choice for a agresive ball. That said the layout you choose can temper it to some degree. The Z spinners can be tricky but once you get a handle on them they are not overly complicated.

Fortunatly Jason said there will be no more Z spinners down the line.

If you get one and noone around you has a spinner shoot me a pm and ill help you show your driller how to get the initial layout.

gsback · « **Reply #11 on:** May 01, 2012, 02:43:53 PM »

Will reiterate what other said....contact Jason. One of the best guys out there in the bowling industry!! You don't have to know him to ask questions and he always takes the time out to personally answer your questions!!