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New Breed Particle Pearl
« on: November 02, 2009, 10:30:34 PM »
Finally had a chance to get some time, all of 3 games....maybe a little more....in with the ball.

Was able to use it in practice and for most of game 1 but had to put the ball away until the 3rd game.  The ball is strong....that I can say.  I don''''t know what they had for oil out there, but I was playing considerably more left than I would normally shoot even when swinging the ball for me.  Ball roared back...and I mean roared back.  I did get to compare it to the Immortal and the Immortal was much longer and didn''''t have the recovery.  I didn''''t get to compare to the NB Pearl of Solid though.

3rd game I pulled it back out.  League is made up of kids and adults....and there is a lot of plastic thrown.  My lanes had 7 of 8 throwing plastic and/or house balls....so I used the Particle Pearl to blend the oil that was everywhere...and it was!!  I watched my Immortal skate a couple shots at the end of game 2 and start of 3.....nice to see it handles the carrydown well!

Used it last night as well....and really overused it.  Played down and in with normal speed and shot 258-248 to start.  Ball rolled real smooth...no jerkiness to it at all and really reminded my of my older particle pearls.  3rd game it got out of hand as the right lane broke down too much and I didn''''t do anything to compensate.  For kicks, I did play a swing shot and watched the ball get out to about the 4-5 board and proceed to come tearing back without an issue.

Overall.....very impressed.  I could easily see how cover changes will impact the ball.  Going with a little polish is going to get the ball down the lane...and it already seems to keep some energy so a polish will only assist in that area.  Taking the cover down to make it stronger....dare I say it....might actually make it handle more oil than the solid.

Overall......sweet job by Jason and family!!

On edit....layout:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk113/gary_lum/NewBreedParticlePearl.jpg

Ball is drilled almost the same as the Solid/Pearl....though one has pin slightly down.  But still....theory is to give this the same layout for a placement right in the middle.

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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 06:39:04 AM »
Gary,

With the strong layout....strong pin to PAP and stacked yes you should see it's strength.  I did not lay mine out that strong and I don't see the strength you have.  Totally dependent on technique, lane condition and layout.  Hope people don't get the wrong idea that his is a hook monster for me it is not.  Just my initial impression.

Of course you thought the Solid Glad was as strong as a Cell and I didn't agree there either.  
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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 07:02:36 AM »
It's funny you mention that Scott.  When I talked with Jason on layout for the ball, I was going to go pin above bridge with CG kicked to the right....which is the layout I had on previous particle pearls.  I liked the delayed reaction as it allowed me to use the ball on lanes when they were breaking down.  But.....point is that it would have given me a weaker layout and people would then think that it was a weak ball......which it isn't.

The thing I liked about the Glad Solid was that it was more usable than the Cell....that's really the one thing that stood out!!
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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 07:37:20 AM »
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When I talked with Jason on layout for the ball, I was going to go pin above bridge with CG kicked to the right....which is the layout I had on previous particle pearls. I liked the delayed reaction as it allowed me to use the ball on lanes when they were breaking down.


You mean like this?    http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q29/scotts33/VisNBPPpolish.jpg

I layout my stuff to combat the lane condition I am going to use them on for it's purpose rather than layout a ball out to show it's strength.  If I did lay the NBPP strong pin to PAP and stacked it wouldn't be usable for me as much for broken down carried down lanes.  I tend to move in on this type of condition.  It's why I wanted to see Visionary bring out a particle pearl.  

BTW....I did put a light coat of Legends polish over the 2000ab OOB surface for a bit more length.  Will try it this week that way.

The one issue, I see with the New Breed balls/Serpentine core is some easy length and a straight roll no arc off the break point.  Do others see this?


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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 07:54:40 AM »
I wonder if my thumbsleave will fit that ball Scott.  The Bedlam just doesn't fit my arsenal.
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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 08:01:00 AM »
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I wonder if my thumbsleave will fit that ball Scott. The Bedlam just doesn't fit my arsenal.  


I am using Vise IT now Darin went away from Turbo SG just using them on my old stuff that was drilled that way initially.  

Bedlam too skid/flippy at Village?
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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 10:14:31 AM »
Scott,

Actually would have had the pin over more to the left.  The pic was also much shorter.  

As for arc....shot you PM first.
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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 07:24:23 PM »
Gary, you are correct this is a very strong ball. If you recall in my original post on this ball I commented that it seemed as strong as the solid. As far as comparisons the recovery is tremendous on the backend due to my drilling. I am able to make hand adjustments that allow me to throw it straighter. However, my advice is do not miss left it hits the backend and moves.

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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 09:10:01 PM »
gsback and Midnighter,

Both of you guys have strong shorter pin to PAP stacked layouts ...how can it not move????????  

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk113/gary_lum/NewBreedParticlePearl.jpg

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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 06:31:26 AM »
I stated in my post due to the layout it was strong. However, the drill is similar to my other balls and it moves more. I will give it another week or so and it should have enough games on it to know for sure.
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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 06:41:20 AM »
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I stated in my post due to the layout it was strong. However, the drill is similar to my other balls and it moves more. I will give it another week or so and it should have enough games on it to know for sure.


Yes, I see that Brian.  My question would be is it as strong with the same drill/same surface as a New Breed Solid or comparable Visionary ball?

My other thought is that THS lane conditions cover up strength and the balls innate ability. We all can make a Ogre Pearl, a B/G Centaur or a NBPP look great on a THS.  Move your feet and line up.


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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2009, 08:29:57 AM »
Wish Visionary would update their webside.  Most bowling companies put teasers out on their new balls well before their release, but this ball has already been released and is still not on their website.  How can something sell if the company doesn''t even acknowledge it''s existance?  I''m interested in getting it to fit between my pearl and solid, but would love to read the "official" description of the ball, especially since some bowlers here place it even in strength with the solid, which I really don''t need.

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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2009, 08:51:20 AM »
Unhomed,

Visionary never has been really up on their website.  It's a small company so they do all their own work.  Also, they stopped doing ball comparisons as far as balls in their line long ago.

Here's as much info. that they sent to test staff members.  Direct quote.

Visionary Bowling Products, LLC. would like to announce the availability of our newest release called the New Breed Particle Pearl. This ball utilizes the Serpentine core design in combination with our new Leviathan coverstock. This coverstock contains a non abrasive particle that creates traction in the oil yet still allows the ball to get down the lane without the dreaded burnout.  This ball will be factory finished to 2,000 Abralon and covers the same lane conditions as other particle pearls, however, it can easily be adjusted to create a wide variety of reactions. With surfaces up to 1,000 Abralon, the ball reacts much like a solid particle, and polished it reacts more like a pearl reactive.  Owning this ball is like having 3 balls in one.

LOW RG: 2.56” DIFFERENTIAL: .052”


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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2009, 10:12:43 AM »
Thanks Scott.  I have both Breeds and and at times THS seems set right between them, the pearl goes too long and the Solid burns out right away, so I was wondering if this Particle Pearl fits neatly between the two, such as (as an example) the Ogre SS to the Ogre Pearl to the Ogre Solid.

Thank you for the Visionary info you gave!
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Re: New Breed Particle Pearl
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2009, 10:41:13 AM »
Let's see....couple things.....

 
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Both of you guys have strong shorter pin to PAP stacked layouts ...how can it not move????????

Yes, I see that Brian. My question would be is it as strong with the same drill/same surface as a New Breed Solid or comparable Visionary ball?


Scott, as I PM'd intent was to have something to compare to....and the only real way I will is if drilled similar.  The ball as drilled, for me, should fit right in between the NB Solid and NB Pearl....but I have to have them all on the lanes to see that for sure.  And I would want to play the different lines I play to really get a good comparison.

 
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If you recall in my original post on this ball I commented that it seemed as strong as the solid.


Brian, my guess on that is that your solid might be burning up.  That's what I see with the Solid at times....just too much spent energy.

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so I was wondering if this Particle Pearl fits neatly between the two

Rik, seeing that you have both, I think you will find that fit....assuming they are drilled similar.
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