Post by: getuaload on December 10, 2009, 10:48:39 PM
I will load some pics later.
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Post by: scotts33 on December 11, 2009, 07:21:14 AM
http://usbcongress.http.internapcdn.net/usbcongress/bowl/equipandspecs/pdfs/approved_balllist.pdf
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Post by: getuaload on December 11, 2009, 07:41:29 AM
http://s528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/getuaload/?action=view¤t=LEcopy1.jpg
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Post by: scotts33 on December 11, 2009, 07:43:37 AM
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Post by: getuaload on December 11, 2009, 07:45:17 AM
http://s528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/getuaload/?action=view¤t=GladiatorLETestStaffcopy-1.jpg&t=1260542755450
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Post by: scotts33 on December 11, 2009, 08:02:02 AM
Still not on the approved list so I assume it will be approved before they ship. I also assume with the way the USBC is these days it's approved but the USBC just can't update their list.
Coverstock interests me.
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Post by: getuaload on December 11, 2009, 08:08:35 AM
This could be a great ball for late shifts / maybe even replace the Ogre Pearl.
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Post by: dizzyfugu on December 11, 2009, 08:10:51 AM
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Post by: gsback on December 11, 2009, 08:29:42 AM
I don't know if I would say this would replace the Ogre Pearl. I think the resounding sentiment was that the ball was a lot stronger than what people thought it would be.
I think this would fit under the Ogre Pearl but above the Blue/Green in terms of lane use.
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Post by: MC on December 11, 2009, 08:46:01 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on December 11, 2009, 08:51:08 AM
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Post by: A_P_K on December 11, 2009, 09:35:59 AM
I am not hesitating to buy this ball, I can care less if it's USBC approved or not.
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Post by: MC on December 11, 2009, 11:47:10 AM
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My thinking. Ogre Pearl smaller differential stronger cover. Gladiator LE stronger differential but smooth movement weaker cover.
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I think you nailed it Scott. I emailed Jason and he suggested that it might pick up the roll a little sooner than the Ogre Pearl, but a little milder on the backend. Total hook may be similar but with a different hook shape.
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Post by: charlest on December 12, 2009, 03:46:44 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on December 12, 2009, 07:50:15 AM
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Is it only available directly from Visionary?
I'd believe at first yes. But, to sell 1000 they would open it up to the public.
Jason would have to comment to know for sure Jeff.
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Post by: A_P_K on December 12, 2009, 08:01:19 AM
Oh well I guess I'll have to call back on Monday.
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Post by: scotts33 on December 12, 2009, 08:27:48 AM
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Heh I patched a call into Visionary last night not truly knowing the time zone difference and whomever answered the phone seemed to be caught off guard.
Oh well I guess I'll have to call back on Monday.
Jason works late to cover the west coast so maybe you talked to him?
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Post by: VBPadvertising on December 12, 2009, 02:45:48 PM
The Gladiator LE is USBC approved, and starts shipping to pro shops, distributors and test staff members starting Monday. This ball was originally intended for an international distributor of ours who wanted something like the Gladiator Pearl, but a little milder so that it could be used on a little drier conditions. After discussing options with them, we blended a few reactive materials to create the desired reaction, and ordered enough materials to fill their order. Unfortunately, their bowling market took a major hit recently and the order was cancelled, so we are releasing this ball to everyone.
Since we have ordered enough material to pour 1,000 balls and had only intended for it to be an international release, we have decided to individually number these balls to 1,000 and just release it as a limited edition.
As is the case with all of our current line balls, the only people who can purchase directly from us are pro shops, distributors and test staff members. It will not be sold directly to individuals through us.
Also, for those of you who were wondering, we are in the middle of creating a new site, which hopefully will go live sometime this week. All of the information on the Gladiator LE as well as the New Breed Solid will be on this site. As is the case with all sites, there may need to be adjustments over the first few weeks, so if anyone viewing the site runs into any mistakes or thinks we are lacking something, please feel free to contact me at vbpadvertising@aol.com.
Thanks again,
Jason Wonders
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Post by: MI 2 AZ on December 12, 2009, 02:51:22 PM
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Post by: tog831 on December 12, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
Jason how do i get the Glad.LE if there is no pro shop near me that carries Visionary?
Post by: A_P_K on December 12, 2009, 04:27:23 PM
Join the test staff and then purchase from VBP directly.
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Post by: getuaload on December 12, 2009, 05:46:42 PM
I highly recommend if you are thinking about joining dont wait. I believe they only accept 5000 members per year and they might fill out the spots.
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Post by: MI 2 AZ on December 12, 2009, 05:56:41 PM
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Post by: gsback on December 13, 2009, 08:33:18 AM
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Jason how do i get the Glad.LE if there is no pro shop near me that carries Visionary?
Don't let the pro shop fool you into thinking they can't get the ball. I believe they can call VBP directly and order the ball!!
As others have said....test staff has some advantages!! If you are in good with a pro shop, it's probably better for you to join and order and get the savings. If pro shop charges you their prices if they order, there's a big difference!!
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Post by: lenstanles703 on December 13, 2009, 09:47:02 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on December 13, 2009, 10:16:12 AM
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Don't let the pro shop fool you into thinking they can't get the ball. I believe they can call VBP directly and order the ball!!
Yes any pro shop can call Visionary and order. If they choose not to that is your pro shops decision. I am sure Visionary will try and work with any real pro shop business. By real, I mean one that is brick and mortar. Heck in the past they even dealt with some none brick and mortar folks.
BTW...one issue that many forget here...pro shops get a $10 driller rebate on lower cost Vis. balls and $15 on higher end Vis. balls. Good deal for the pro shop also. A rebate form is sent to all test staff members with the ball and can be filled out and mailed back to Visionary or faxed to Betsy. My pro driller appreciates it.
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Post by: A_P_K on December 16, 2009, 07:05:36 PM
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Post by: getuaload on December 17, 2009, 07:16:09 AM
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Post by: getuaload on December 17, 2009, 10:03:04 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on December 17, 2009, 10:07:30 AM
Not sure this is the ball for drier moving in for me. Probably going to replace the drier moving in ball as an SS Ogre. I miss the one I had.
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Post by: A_P_K on December 17, 2009, 03:20:24 PM
I'll update if I actually obtain one or not.
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