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Equipment Boards => Visionary => Topic started by: Androooo on January 19, 2009, 11:10:36 PM
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Enjoy boys and girls.
I finally got some time to make a new video.
I do apologize for the lack of consistency on some shots, but I haven't thrown a ball for over 6 weeks. Besides, it was on a THS, and lets face it... who needs to be consistent? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttyvHRsJZ1g
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Andrew Phillips
The Tenpin Bowling Discount Store - Moonah Bowl
Team Bowling Balls Australia - Visionary Staff
Edited on 1/21/2009 5:42 PM
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Need to get some pics of the layouts on those balls. Pretty sweet looking arsenal.
John
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Got Revs?
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Very nice Andrew. I like John's suggestion.
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Scott
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Nice, you catch a handful thats for sure.
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My Vid (http://"http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/RevLefty/Vids/?action=view¤t=08.flv")
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Columbia bowls the world over
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Androoo would it be possible for you to put the videos on putfile. I only ask because my work has youtube blocked. but i can see putfile videos.
If not its ok i will check them out when i get home.
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TO BE THE MAN, YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE MAN
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Not to be the a-hole here, but did anyone notice that all the ball reactions were about the same?
Good bowling skills, easy ths pattern makes any ball look great
I don't know if I would say the ball reactions were the same. What were you expecting??
I saw different lines for the different balls, ranging from tighter to swing, or what I think is a swing shot. Sure...some of the balls played in the same area, but I would expect that. I do see the same thing out of my shots, though I will play a couple different lines.
Nice vid though of all the balls!!
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Layouts are as follows...
New Breed - 5"x45*x45* VAL Box Finish
Gladiators - 5"x60*x45* VAL Box Finish
AMB Solid & Pearl - 5"x45*x45* VAL Hole on PAP Box Finish
Particle - 6"x45*x60* VAL 4000abr and Beans
Green Blue - Pin above fingers Approx 4", MB in thumb 4000abr and Beans
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Andrew Phillips
The Tenpin Bowling Discount Store - Moonah Bowl
Team Bowling Balls Australia - Visionary Staff
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Andrew,
Do you by chance have pics on how your stuff is layed out?
Thanks!
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Visionary Test Staffer 08/09
www.visionarybowling.com
Looking for the following...
16# Visionary Frankie May Gryphon
16# Banger Hole Finder Pearl
16# InSite Revelation
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Was thinking the same thing!
John
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Got Revs?
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Nice video. Is your Green Blue polished?
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"Don't Give Up... Don't Ever Give Up." -Jim Valvano
"Perfection is not attainable. But if we chase perfection, we can catch excellence." -Vince Lombardi
VISIONARY TEST STAFF 07/08
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I will work on getting some pics of the layouts... they do look weird with my PAP (4 3/4 over and 1 3/4 up)... Especially with the Sarge grip

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Andrew Phillips
The Tenpin Bowling Discount Store - Moonah Bowl
Team Bowling Balls Australia - Visionary Staff
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quote:
Not to be the a-hole here, but did anyone notice that all the ball reactions were about the same?
Good bowling skills, easy ths pattern makes any ball look great
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Keep looking... I'm sure there's a 300 in one of those balls you keep buying!!
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c(')(') here bunny bunny bunny....
My point being that any ball would look good on that pattern with the skills he has. It didn't really matter which ball was used as they were all in the same place on the lanes and had almost the same reaction.
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Inverted 1 and Dead Flush are my Evil Twins...
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My point being that any ball would look good on that pattern with the skills he has. It didn't really matter which ball was used as they were all in the same place on the lanes and had almost the same reaction.
As I said to Inverted 1 above, I disagree. While the overall reaction is going to be similar in some of the balls, not all balls were in the same place.
I can't see where he's throwing at the arrows, but to say that all balls at the break were the same isn't true. The NB Pearl varied between 7-10 board it looked like whereas the G3 seems to be go out around the 4-5 board and the Glad Pearl was played more inside going out to 9-12 board. The Glad solid saw a shift in feet to the right. I didn't write anything down for the rest....but to say they were all the same isn't true at all.
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Pictures of some of the layout are as follows...
http://www.tasbowling.com/21012009003.jpg
http://www.tasbowling.com/21012009004.jpg
http://www.tasbowling.com/21012009005.jpg
http://www.tasbowling.com/21012009006.jpg
All constructive criticism is appreciated... ect ect
I have thick skin 
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Andrew Phillips
The Tenpin Bowling Discount Store - Moonah Bowl
Team Bowling Balls Australia - Visionary Staff
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wow that is very interesting...
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Visionary Test Staffer 08/09
www.visionarybowling.com
Looking for the following...
16# Visionary Frankie May Gryphon
16# Banger Hole Finder Pearl
16# InSite Revelation
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How long have you been using the sarge easter grip ? In your old Ogre videos it looked like a normal grip.
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TO BE THE MAN, YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE MAN
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That Ring finger could probably reach china
I know ur in australia but i cant think of what you would dig to, too early
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Kiall Hill
Visionary test staff
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if he got any more of the ball, he hook it 2 lanes to left.
hes got skills either that or a motor in his release hand lol
new breed looks awesome
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I agree with gsback! He played different lines and the break point was similar or the same, but what do you expect on a ths? You'll get the same or similar break point, but your lay down point will be modified to allowed for different strengths of the ball. Plus, the drill patterns were similar and you'll get similar shapes! I appreciate the video and you did a great job on it, plus the bonus of the layouts! Just my $.02, Bruce
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How long have you been using the sarge easter grip ? In your old Ogre videos it looked like a normal grip.
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TO BE THE MAN, YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE MAN
Been using the Sarge for about 6 months. It was out of necessity than want. Strained the tendons in my wrist and hand while at work, and this is the only way I could throw the ball without pain. It actually feels really good now. Dropped in weight down to 14lbs and with this grip, I can actually get more hand positions than I used to.
For the people that want to see it, I have made a video of my release.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTST93bmREU
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That Ring finger could probably reach china
I know ur in australia but i cant think of what you would dig to, too early
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Kiall Hill
Visionary test staff
I think the ring is close to Russia 
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Andrew Phillips
The Tenpin Bowling Discount Store - Moonah Bowl
Team Bowling Balls Australia - Visionary Staff
Edited on 1/28/2009 4:43 PM
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very nice release, to me looks like your behind the ball and your balanced at the line. plus it doesnt hurt to have lots of revs!
thanks for the vids... sure the ths hides the differences between balls but thats what most of us bowl on enjoyable non the less.
o and your pap is very close to mine... mine is 4 1/2 by 1 1/4 up but i dont have all those revs you have.
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Visionary Test Staff 08/09
all visionary this year
blurple
ogre ss
glad.
glad. pearl
Edited on 1/28/2009 8:04 PM
Edited on 1/28/2009 8:43 PM
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I like keeping the layouts basic... Then I let the motor and the tires dictate what they will do.
For extremes, I will different layouts if I'm trying to accomplish a different look. EG: my SS (not videoed) is drilled 45*x4" with a 30* VAL angle.... HUGE backend movement for getting real deep.
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Andrew Phillips
The Tenpin Bowling Discount Store - Moonah Bowl
Team Bowling Balls Australia - Visionary Staff
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About 5 mins... Sanded up to 4000 then hit with Bean Secret Sauce... Polished quite easy.
Not as glossy as a reactive, but it's shiny enough 
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Andrew Phillips
The Tenpin Bowling Discount Store - Moonah Bowl
Team Bowling Balls Australia - Visionary Staff