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JamminJD

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New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« on: March 25, 2015, 11:35:52 AM »
Here we go the new Raven! Also Visionary new Logo!

Awesome job Jason and Visionary, looks great!

 

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2015, 11:33:19 PM »




This ball looks awesome. I think I changed my mind and I'm gonna have it drilled 50/60 x 5 x 30. I'm gonna sub in the league tomorrow night so I'll have to report back with what I see from it

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2015, 01:06:57 AM »
man wish buddies still carried visionary products


This place, Bowlers Cellar, is the only internet cellar that I know which sells Visionary balls online. It's been a while since I ordered from them; they seemed fine back then.
http://www.bowlerscellar.com/apps/webstore/products/show/5810722
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Matt C

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2015, 08:22:39 AM »
Matt, in regards to 1st ball of the night, I would think that with the drilling you've given it, yes, you might not.  But had you drilled this ball similar to other balls you've had, it would have been a better comparison to make that statement, no??

I used this specific drilling on the previous advise from Mo Pinel.  Low totals and a 3 1/2 - 4" pin to pap.  This lets me take full advantage of a lower weight hole to increase flare.  Remember this ball is a sym and after drilling the MB will be in or near the thumbhole.

Only saying that because it gives the impression that the ball isn't a 1st out of the bag ball and I have a feeling that it will be for many.

I tried my best to state that for ME it might not be a first ball out of the bag.  For most others this will be the first ball out as they do not see the volume I do on a day to day basis.

I did a follow up post the next night saying the shot was a bit drier for some reason and I used it for 4 games including the 300.  The temp and the humidity this time of year plays hell on the shot.  One night its really heavy then next it plays more like a med/heavy.

I have used it 3 times now, and all three I have had someone or multiples ask what ball it is because they like what they saw.
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JamminJD

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2015, 09:54:18 AM »
Took mine to league last night could only use it the first game shot 246, ball is nice, smooth and very continuous. Got a bunch of people asking about it and really liking the looks of the ball. Jason did a good job with this one. Lot of questions as well.

Can't wait to throw it again!

Matt C

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2015, 10:07:45 AM »
There is something special with this ball.   The carry so far is incredible.  Cant wait to see what I can do tonight.
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SVstar34

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2015, 09:34:17 PM »
There is something special with this ball.   The carry so far is incredible.  Cant wait to see what I can do tonight.

I'd have to agree. Hot off the press I threw the first 8 until I rang back-to-back 10s for 268.

Went 268-209-246 for 723. Should have been higher too, rang 3 more 10s in game 3 and had bad luck on 1 lane in game 2

JamminJD

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2015, 10:09:46 AM »
There is something special with this ball.   The carry so far is incredible.  Cant wait to see what I can do tonight.

I'd have to agree. Hot off the press I threw the first 8 until I rang back-to-back 10s for 268.

Went 268-209-246 for 723. Should have been higher too, rang 3 more 10s in game 3 and had bad luck on 1 lane in game 2
Nice Bowling Ryan, ball is going to be a good one! Keep us informed!

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #53 on: April 03, 2015, 10:31:21 AM »
One thing I can say after throwing the ball is that it doesn't stop when it gets going.

I ended up going 50 x 5 x 30 and the ball is strong. I felt like I was trying to control a monster on our shot as it just wanted to take off. I added a coat of polish after the league to the ball to see if it might help at all. The coat of polish didn't change much except maybe a foot or 2 of length.

As my comparison so far, it made my Virtual Energy look tame.

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2015, 09:37:46 PM »
Matt C= I have watched your videos on previous Visionary balls, both Warlocks and the Samurai. Generally speaking, how does the Raven stack up against those balls?

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2015, 11:29:07 AM »
Matt C= I have watched your videos on previous Visionary balls, both Warlocks and the Samurai. Generally speaking, how does the Raven stack up against those balls?

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Gill Man

Stronger and longer than the Warlock solid
A little earlier than the Warlock pearl but stronger off the spot
A lot stronger than the samurai and a good bit earlier.

What I SEE at my house with the below balls.  Your reactions may vary depending on your house conditions.

Raven -  reads mids very well and a Strong arc off the dry. so far Excellent carry. as the pattern breaks down I can get deep with the Raven and not lose hitting power.

Warlock Pearl -  longer with a solid arc off the dry.  I do get some over/under if I try to get too deep with the pearl.

Warlock solid - reads mids well for ME not as strong off the dry as the pearl, but mine is drilled pin down for a longer hook zone.  Did not handle heavy oil well.

Samurai - I redrilled mine with a pin down layout.  the first layout I was seeing more of a hook set reaction.  Now I use the Samurai when the patter really breaks down.

MB Crossover -  Ball is still my bag.  I like the hybrid react a tac cover and if the lanes get weird this ball seems to shine.
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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2015, 08:28:57 PM »
Thank you for the response Matt and congrats on that 300 with the Raven!

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2015, 08:15:31 PM »
Got mine sitting at the house. Need to punch a few holes. And let it roll. Thinking pin above ring finger, 4 to 5 inches from pap. Put the cg to the right a little and add a wt hole if needed. Should be stronger than the Samurai with a similar layout. My go to ball right now is a pin down Gryphon SE. Friggin love Visionary.
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SVstar34

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2015, 10:29:45 PM »
722 tonight with it. 269-245-208. The first 2 games go great and then it becomes too strong for me in the 3rd game. I'm having too much fun throwing it that I haven't put it down when I should have. Wednesday night was a good example for it as I went 227-242-189 trying to make it work in the 3rd game
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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #59 on: April 10, 2015, 09:53:00 AM »
Gonna drill mine tonight. Gonna try and lay it out with the thumbhole 6-3/4 from the pin and 3-3/4 pin to pap. 

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Re: New Visionary Logo and Raven !
« Reply #60 on: April 10, 2015, 11:34:41 AM »
Been gone for a while, but that looks sweet.