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« on: April 13, 2007, 04:50:01 AM »
Hello All,

     For those of you who don't know me, my name is Jason Wonders, VP of Marketing for Visionary Bowling Products.  Lately I have been receiving a lot of requests to come on here and provide information and insight into our equipment line.  

     Typically, I like to stand back and view these posts from the outside so that I get unbiased opinions.  However, since there has been enough demand, I figured I would start a post that could strictly be a question and answer section on our line of equipment.

     Fire away,
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« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2007, 01:08:10 AM »
Harry,

Maybe you should start a post about Urethanes and ask everyone who is seriously interested in one to respond in that thread, then give the link to Jason to read over.  

I found it interesting that more Slate Blues were sold after the announcement of their becoming discontinued.  Sounds like a lot of people kept putting off buying one until they realized it might be their last chance to get one.
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« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2007, 10:25:08 AM »
I joined the Visionary Test Staff yesterday, and I would just like thank Jason for being so helpful.  He answered all my questions in a timely (damn fast really) manner.  No other company I have dealt with in the past was as prompt and forthright as Visionary has been.  The Visionary line looks exceptional, and I am very excited to try their equipment out.  Once I get everything set up, I will try to make a video of all the balls I got, so others can see how they stack up against each other.
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« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2007, 01:01:35 PM »
Jason,

I have no questions, but I will say this.

I have never thrown any of your products, but I was interested in the slate blue gargoyle. I still am interested in a good urethane product to replace my 16lb amf angle.

I must compliment you on your interest of the forums and the users. What you are doing has been tried before by other ball makers, and has had limited to no success. I applaud you. It seems like you guys run a very professional company, and strive to bring good products to the consumer. Just for that, I may have to get me a visionary drilled up.

The only complaint I have, is that there seems to be limited product visibility here in North Alabama. I wish more pro-shops around here would carry your product. I wish there was a way for pro-shops in my area to be more educated on the quality of your product and quality of your service.

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Re: Q & A
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2007, 03:39:37 PM »
Jason,

Good to hear back from you.  The problem is that the Crimson is a hair to early, not able to get the length I am looking for.  I alson have a Crimson with the pin above the bridge and the cg center of grip and I simply cannot control it.  It is harder off the spot than anything else I have ever used.  That is why I went with 4 1/2 stacked with the other one.  It is a couple feet sooner and a little more controllable.  But, at one house I bowl in, I am in between.  The Blue Sparkle is too mild around the corner to carry from deeper angles and the Crimson is not long enough.  I have a mid 500 rev rate and a 5 1/2 PAP with 17-18 mph ball speed.  So what do you think?


Djarum,

I agree.  It is the Southeast in general that does not have much exposure at all with VBP.  I live in Atlanta and there are only a handful of people who use VBP.  Shops down here simply wont sell them because they dont know much about them.  So, they stick with the bigger companies like Ebonite, Brunswick, Storm.
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« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2007, 12:24:00 AM »
Hi Harry,

Thanks for your post.  It will be interesting to see what people have to say.  I have read over the current posts, and I have to say the response has been pretty close to what I would have thought.  I will continue to keep my eye on it though.

Hi DJ,

Thank you for all of the kind words.  We are doing our best to expand across the entire US, and while it is a little slow, we are definitely making progress.  Hopefully within the next year or so, we will have a much stronger presence in your area.

I gotta give you a little warning, if you want a slate you may want to get one soon, because we a running out of inventory pretty quickly.  

Hey Steven,

That is pretty much what I was guessing, but you never know.  I think that if you want length between the Crimson and the Blue Sparkle, with more backend than the blue, than your best bet will probably be the Silver/Blue Ogre Pearl that will be our next release.  

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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2007, 08:40:43 PM »
jason i think it's great that you participate on this website----this shows real customer service. i haven't thrown visionary equipment and for now i can't as i bowl pba regionals. maybe in the future. i received a wonderful e-mail from your dad about the history of faball---it was very informative. keep up the good work.

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« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2007, 08:56:34 PM »
How is John Fabanich related to Faball? How long were you guys in Utah before you moved to Saint Louis?

Who is the guy from Saint Louis on Ebay, "ggptrns" that sells all of those Faball Hammers?

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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2007, 11:22:15 AM »
Hi Blueraider,

When my father decided that he wanted to make bowling balls, he found a gentleman in Ohio that had all of the equipment, and had been making polyester bowling balls on a very small scale.  This man was John Fabanich.

John Fabanich had stopped producing bowling balls, and was going to close the company, so my father and a gentleman named Earl Widman, bought the equipment and molds, and moved everything to St. Louis.  As part of an agreement they made, they continued to call the company Faball.  A couple years later, my father developed a thick shelled urethane ball called the Black Hammer.

After several years, Faball Enterprises was one of the largest bowling ball manufacturers in the world.  When the quantity of balls needed surpassed the amount that they could make in St. Louis, they licensed the production rights out to a facility in Utah, and one in Baltimore MD.  At that point, there were 3 facilities manufacturing Hammers to keep up with demand.  Eventually, the Baltimore facility took over the entire production, and produced the balls for us up until 2002 when we sold the brand to Ebonite.

As far as the ebay store goes, I assume that it has to be one of the Pro Shops in the St Louis area that bought a large inventory of the old Hammer balls.

Hope this clears some things up,
Jason Wonders
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« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2007, 12:34:27 PM »
Good explanation Jason.  

For those that always wondered why Visionary balls start with the SL letters...it means they are manufactured in St. Louis.  

Rolled the Black and Purple yesterday 3 practice games......very nice reaction on semi broken down lanes.  Like what I see Jason.


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« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2007, 10:37:54 PM »
Jason, thanks for your answers! I always enjoy knowing the history of my favorite ball companies! I actually have talked with Dick Haas of Star Trak a couple of times on the phone and I learned a lot from him. I also enjoyed our brief conversation on the phone a few weeks ago when I called from work and told you how much I liked the scorcher NPT.

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« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2007, 05:51:58 PM »
Any info on this Jason? I think everyone would like to know from the source instead of hearing the persistent quarrels in the forums.

 
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I just got off the phone with my inside source and was told some very interesting information about Lane #1's latest move.

I was partially right when I said Richie was in the process of buying his own plant. He is TRYING to buy his own existing plant. Richie is trying to buy out Visionary. If he succeeds in buying out Visionary, then Lane #1 will pour their own balls. If he can't buy out Visionary, then he will try to make a deal for them to pour Lane #1 balls.

Columbia was allowed to finish the remainder of their contract with Lane #1 and pour the rest of the G-Forces. So Columbia has Poured covers for the HRG, G-Force Solid, G-Force Nebula and G-Force Evolution.

Ebonite and Storm will not be doing business with Lane #1 as they refuse to give up the rights to pour the balls and allow Richie to pour his own.

The only other possiblity that exists if Richie can't work something out with Visionary will be to go back to Brunswick. Brunswick is said to be hurting in sales, and there is a far off possibility that Richie and Brunswick will kiss and make up, as it seems they might be needing each other in the future.

So there is the big secret people. Lane #1 is trying to buy out Visionary.
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« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2007, 06:30:39 PM »
I for one hope Lane 1 does not buy out Visionary, I like family owned businesses and I think the whole philosophy of the companies are so different.

Lane 1 is about cranking out as many balls as possible, and I have seen a lot of damaged ones. I never hear of a Visonary product cracking.

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« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2007, 09:32:02 PM »
Visionary will not be selling out....trust me on this one!
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    « Reply #44 on: April 26, 2007, 05:45:29 AM »
    msg sent to ya Jason.

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    Re: Q & A
    « Reply #45 on: April 26, 2007, 06:11:17 AM »
    Jason,

    I take it there will be a particle ogre. Will it be a smooth cover particle or similar in coverstock texture to the Blue Centaur or the Granite Gargoyle ?

    Thanks again for the great gear.

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