Kind of difficult to sell something just based on, "It is pretty sick."  What does the ball do?  How does your buddy roll the ball?  On what condition was the ball rolled on?

To Jason Wonders:

What should we expect from the Ogre?  Is this going to be an earlier and stronger version of the B/G Centaur?  Where is this going to fit?
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Steven Vance
Former Pro Shop Operator

If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!

my friend that i speak of actually works at the visionary home plant, and i never did ask him about the core.  i was watching him throw it in a league i dont play in.  i shoot with hime this thurs. and i will ask him more about it.  he did tell me that it is a heavy oil ball and his is drilled to roll early  he is a lefty like me and he avg.s about 21mph a shot so its hard for me to describe his shot.  ill post some more info thurs after i throw it  lol  and ill check where it will be in the V lineup and the core specs.  cool?