Author Topic: Scorcher NPT - Old School (Read 6479 times)

scotts33 · « **on:** March 14, 2011, 11:40:09 PM »

Here's my latest addition. Old school! Layout is 68* 4" 58* PSA is 1 1/2"s right of thumb between X hole and thumb. You'll note CG is 2"s right of pin. This how much shift was needed to put PSA right of thumb with needed large X hole to make legal. Put the X hole at P3 to shift the PSA. I took the cover to 4000 abralon.

Anyone else use a huge shift on a Vis. ball and what was your results?

I added this ball to combat the lower volume wet/dry house shot that I bowl 2 leagues on. During the spring with the warmer temps. and the house management taking this THS to lower volume more wet/dry I will be able to play closer to the oil line and out to the dry without the jack knife thru the face that you normally see on a wet/dry shot. Being that this ball has a very much like urethane cover and ball motion that is what I am hoping for.

For comparison B/G Centaur @ OOB works realtively well playing 9 arrows to 5 break point but can still jack knife at times or high leaving 4 pins. And if I move into the oil more say 11 to 7 it is a bit inconsistent. So, I am hoping this ball will allow more of that line just a bit inside 10 and 7-8 at breakpoint with still a smooth arc but enough pop to carry well.

Scott

Edited by scotts33 on 3/15/2011 at 7:52 AM

ch_flash · « **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2011, 08:07:52 AM »

Looks interesting. Let us know how it works for you.

Did you spin it first to know where or how to drill it?

If you didn't like that strike, just watch this one!

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scotts33 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2011, 08:16:29 AM »

Yes, I did spin it first to fine the PSA. I haven't had a chance to roll it yet so not sure but worth trying. I am hoping to find the reason why the other newer assymetricals did not roll well for me. This huge label shift puts the PSA right of the thumb in a more dynamic position which is totally different than what I have drilled in the past.

ch_flash wrote on 3/16/2011 8:07 AM:Looks interesting. Let us know how it works for you.

Did you spin it first to know where or how to drill it?

Scott

ch_flash · « **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2011, 08:47:34 AM »

I wish I could have spun the Midnight Scorcher first. So far, I can roll it left handed(great reaction) or no thumb right handed(Mega revs with a ton of roll). I'm having release issues with my thumb in it.

I think I should have used the drill sheet that was in the box. lol.

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Juggernaut · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2011, 09:19:12 AM »

Please do keep us updated. I have been thinking about doing almost exactly the same thing.

scotts33 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2011, 06:46:24 AM »

Update on old wood THS 3 person tourney last night. Started with a Hammer Trap and never had a decent look too far left 4-9'ed 9th frame so switched to NPT Scorcher and stuck out in 10th. Then proceed in the 2nd game to go stone 7 pin and then the next 11 in a row. 290. So don't tell me you need modern technology to score.

The more and more, I roll the old stuff the more it matches up to the modern walled up lane conditions and you don't have to throw it 25 miles an hour.

I picked up a G-3 this week....more older school!

Scott

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 21, 2011, 09:33:28 AM »

+1,000,000................I agree with this. On your THS, unless you are really rev challenged and/or speed dominate, you do not need the super $200.00 oil soakers to score. Even at the USBCs, I have scored rather well with the same two balls that were released back around 1999-2000 (Rock On and Green Gargoyle). I think this is the reason why you will tend to see more sales in the lower to mid price points, Scott.

scotts33 wrote on 4/21/2011 6:46 AM:
Update on old wood THS 3 person tourney last night. Started with a Hammer Trap and never had a decent look too far left 4-9'ed 9th frame so switched to NPT Scorcher and stuck out in 10th. Then proceed in the 2nd game to go stone 7 pin and then the next 11 in a row. 290. So don't tell me you need modern technology to score.

The more and more, I roll the old stuff the more it matches up to the modern walled up lane conditions and you don't have to throw it 25 miles an hour.

I picked up a G-3 this week....more older school!

Scott

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OddBalls · « **Reply #7 on:** April 21, 2011, 01:53:23 PM »

For me, that ball would go 20' and make a left turn into the gutter..

Where are you finding enough oil to use this Beast??

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scotts33 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 21, 2011, 02:39:51 PM »

Have you ever rolled one?

At P4000 abralon this cover is not anywhere near the strength of any reactive cover that I have now. For comparison's sake on this same THS on old wood a Hammer Trap with a 55* 5" 45* x hole P2 @ 4000 abralon hooks way harder on the back end friction and 5 boards parallel left of the NPT. The NPT Scorcher is a smooth arc like reaction with no over reaction that you will get with reactive covers. Old school urethane reaction but with some moxy at the pin deck. You swear watching it roll the last 10' into the 1-3 that it's going to go thru the face but I have learned to play for that and it's carry is dramatic.

OddBalls wrote on 4/21/2011 1:53 PM:For me, that ball would go 20' and make a left turn into the gutter..

Where are you finding enough oil to use this Beast??

Scott

scotts33 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 22, 2011, 09:10:06 AM »

Just an FYI....FIGJAM. Same tourney different team....same game 2nd got it right this time. 300!

The NPT is special on this old wood/Guardian front wet/dry THS.

Scott

charlest · « **Reply #10 on:** April 22, 2011, 10:09:06 AM »

Congrats, Scott!!!

Great bowling, NPT or anything else!

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scotts33 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 23, 2011, 09:11:21 AM »

Thanks Jeff!

Scott

MI 2 AZ · « **Reply #12 on:** April 23, 2011, 01:03:14 PM »

Scott, Congratulations on your 300 game. Nice bowling.

Edited to add:

I remember reading others saying that the NPT was like a slightly stronger version of the old Blue Hammer urethane.

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TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 23, 2011, 01:14:30 PM »

Congrats Scott!!!! Little ironic that after having issues for a while with some ball reaction that not only did you find a good ball reaction in something old school, you fire a PERFECTO!! Very nice.

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scotts33 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 23, 2011, 05:19:37 PM »

Thanks Gary and Steve.

True Steve but I will be honest in this walled up house scores come pretty easily. Stronger/newer stuff work great IF you are really speed dominant with less hand. The key to scoring here and most walled up houses for me anyway is staying closer to the track area which I can do with the NPT and other equipment that will face up better in the 1-3. Pin down equipment and the NPT in particular if you look at layout with it's 2.61 Rg for length and P4000 seems to work. It still only flares 3" to 3 1/2"s.

The other issue that I have learned to spin my Visionary equipment find the PSAand lay them out stronger than I have in the past. That and going down to 14's has allowed this older codger to stay a but further right than I used to be able to.

I will also agree with what Gary says about the NPT being similar to the old Faball Blue Hammer coverstock wise and ball motion at least for me. People get hung up on the large total differential and the old 1999 advertising as a ball for heavy-medium but today's lane conditions and conditioners being more viscous you can't compare 1999 to 2011 IMO. Though most propreitors keep it very dry to the outside.

BTW..if you have one of these you need to wipe down after every shot I use Remedy RX. Oil does not soak in this cover repels it and it sits on top of ball. It is subject to carry down so you have to watch for that but what ball isn't these days....very few. You can play for the high hit and trip 4's which is not applicable to most equipment these days.

Last though is the NPT is in some ways similar and comparable lane condition wise to the B/G....the B/G cover being solid reactive and stronger than the NPT. The NPT with a larger motor and flare but weaker cover. I can play around the same trajectory with both. The NPT when it shines doesn't ping 10's at least for me.

TWOHAND834 wrote on 4/23/2011 1:14 PM:Congrats Scott!!!! Little ironic that after having issues for a while with some ball reaction that not only did you find a good ball reaction in something old school, you fire a PERFECTO!! Very nice.

Peace doesnt always have to be silent.

Scott

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