Please take a look at my post on the visionary website under rumors.  I have also discussed this on the visionary page on facebook.  I am here in Indidanpolis and I am a test staffer.  But apparently...someone is hooking up non-test staff members on balls at the the same, or better prices than what I can get them for.  Some people are getting spartans and gladiaor pearls for either $75 for both...or $235...which is the same as what we can get them for.  I am a platinum members...I paid over $500 because I ordered an additional ball....and they are letting people do this.  I could have saved my money.  And oh...by the way...if you are waiting on a spartan...these hook ups may be why you having gotten yours yet....just my humble opinion.

Jason,

I commend you for responding in an honest and straight foward way. I also agree with your statements as far as this was a private matter that should not have gone public.

IMO this person should have gone to you first before posting stuff all over facebook and here.
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Edited on 11/18/2010 1:27 PM

Have to chime in on this as well....

huskyherm....

Let me see if I get this correct.  You think you are being slighted by Jason (and in essence VBP) because a couple of people bought balls for $75 compared to the prices you agreed to when you signed on as a test staffer???

Let me see.4 balls, 2 shirts, and a 3 ball bag all for $500..I believe that was the price.  There are 4 New Breeds in the lineup and at the prices tests staff is given, that more than takes care of your cost..and you haven't even gone into the bag, shirts, etc.  So.how is this being slighted?  Even if you got the balls for $75, that's $465+ when you get done adding the accessories!

Let's see the quote from Jason, "Most manufacturers do trial runs with certain bowlers before they put them on staff. ".  Did you know that??  So..let me ask you this!!  If you decide to get balls from someone else, ie Storm/Roto Grip or Ebonite (or one of their many different names), are you going to do the same complaining about being slighted??  My guess is you might not because apparently you didn't know (a) the reason for why this happened or (b) that all of the other manufacturers already do this!

Just so you know..and this has been discussed many times.  TCBA bowlers get discounts on prices as well.  So, are you going to post another "I feel slighted" topic when you come into contact with some TCBA members that got discounts as well??  

Before you do, understand that TCBA members get that as a result of the affiliation VBP has with the TCBA in that they sponsor the league.  I will tell you this though...for the example I mentioned above with the New Breeds, the test staff member gets quite a bit more than what the TCBA members get if ordering the same stuff.  

In the end, Jason tries very hard to make himself available to anyone that's got a question, and really, this should have been taken up with him and him alone.  If you took the time to do it the right way, I think you'd more than find him to be on the up and up, direct and honest about what he says...which is more than you'll get from any of the others!  Also.what's the chances of you talking with someone that's got the intricate knowledge that he's got about how the industry works??  Probably slim to none as more than likely, you'll be stuck with Joe Answer-the-phone-guy.  I'm sure given the opportunity and time to rectify the situation, Jason would have done everything he could to help you out.
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For everyones information...I did not just go on facebook or anywhere else for that matter without trying to talk to the people first.  I called and talked to a few people there, got some questions answered, some weren't, and then I did not hear from them again until I called them again. Jason was not one of them, but according to someone they had given him my information.  I can't talk to people if they decide to not talk to me. As far as feeling slighted...yes I do feel that way.  I never said that what I got was not a great deal.....hence....that's why I bought it. What I did have a problem with was several people asking me about if I can get them the deal that the other people had. I knew nothing about it, and probably shouldn't have, but I have every right to try to ask questions when I have spent $587 and somebody else is getting 2 balls for $75...especially when they are not even on the test staff. Now, jason has the right to do whatever he wants to do...no questions asked.  But it has been over a month since the rep was here, and people are just now doing this promo thing...which is none of my business.  But look at it from my point of view...people here do not use visionarys, and were looking at me as a rep for the company....how do I explain to them about a deal that I know nothing about and cannot get for myself.  Why would people want to join the test staff like I did, when it looks like other people have gotten a better deal than I did, and it doesn't cost as much either.  I was the one who encouraged the ladies to work with the Visionary people. I helped sell a lot of balls from the proshop here.  But I cannot answer peoples questions that I have no answer too. I guess that maybe I should have told all of these people to call Visionary for themselves...that was my fault.

Someone will always get a better deal. Or say they did. If someone ask and you don't know, that is the answer to give. Problem solved.
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Like I said on the Visionary website...I asked a question.  No one else has had this issuse....so it must have been only a problem or mis-understanding here in Indianapolis......problem solved.  Jason and I will and have worked through this.  I am done with it.