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scotts33

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Update: NBPP
« on: February 26, 2010, 02:57:38 AM »
I thought I'd update my experiences with my NBPP for those that have interest in the ball.  Note that these are my experiences with my bowling technique, ball speed and lane conditions I've use it on.  See profile for stats.

I have tried an umpteen amount of surfaces from OOB P2000 abralon to polish over various grits.  I've found overall that the OOB P2000 surface is really the best for me and fits in a line-up of Visionary equipment.

First, after doing various surface changes one of the best factors that this ball has is it's ability to retain it's particle surface...the "beard" as it's know to most.  I have had a Granite, Midnight Scorcher, Burgundy, AMB Particle, Purple Ice Ex...all of these balls after a number of surface changes over time seemed to me to lose their particle surface.  Just wore faster when resurfacing or just weren't the same as when new OOB.  

Not the NBPP in fact it seems better or as good as new OOB.  I have about 40+ games and it now and a half a dozen surface changes before I went back to OOB and left it that way.

Where the NBPP fits for me?  At OOB P2000 I use it on blended lanes of various lengths and volumes and it works well.  Decent length and a rolling arc.  The Serpentine core I believe because it is a tall core seems to get length and then when it hits friction gets a straighter roll if this makes sense.  I saw this on a New Breed Pearl also.   On blended patterns it reads the lane well and the particle surface evens out the hook and roll in back end.  I find this a very nice attribute on most lane conditions. The NBPP is normally a first ball out of the bag on blended conditions.  I suffer with it on wet/dry....it checks up to early and over reads the dry.  Uses up energy can leave anything from blowing thru the nose to washouts as there isn't enough oil in that part of the lane.  It would what I call a medium-heavy condition.  Fit slightly above the Gladiator Solid both OOB and similar layouts.  See pics.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q29/scotts33/VisNBPP.jpg  there is an X hole at P3 on the NBPP now.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q29/scotts33/VisGladSolid.jpg

For most wet/dry house conditions in leagues I don't bring it out.  Just isn't the right ball for me on that type of condition because of particle OOB surface....the Glad. Solid would do a better job or best is a G/B Centaur for me...evens out the over reaction off the dry outside.

I bought the NBPP with a specific use in mind using it on second shift leagues with quite a bit of carry down.  For that use with slight amount of polish it never worked out.  Never could find the right surface nor technique to get it to read lane correctly and carry well.  I am still looking for that ball and if Visionary brings out a Crimson Ex or G-3 remake that would be what I would try next for length and more flip.  That ball right now is a pin over Track Heat OOB remake.  I tried a AMB Bronze and it works decently but is a rolling arc not flippish enough to carry well on slight carry down. The other modern Vis. pearls don't handle carry down well at all for me.

Hope this might help others that are looking for an honest opinion by a hack bowler.  
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Re: Update: NBPP
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2010, 10:28:47 PM »
a little update:
 I bought this ball off of Scott and decided to start fresh with my own surface tweak.I hit it with a fresh green scotch brite and then a very heavy polish(high shine)and then lightly by hand scuffed it with p3000 trizact.
first game on some old Bruns synthetic lanes with med oil and as always sloppy backends I tried playing a more direct line, 25-13-10. with some speed and little hand the ball revved very fast with alot of mid lane move but not much backend,shot 188.second game I decided to move deep and let the ball roll more,fairly clean through the heads the NBPP still revs fast but motored down lane to about 35-40 Ft. and made a very strong but controlled back end move and carried very well.the line I played was 35-20-10.if it leaked out it recovered and carried and if I missed in side it held and carried,shot 231.most of the third game was the same until about the 7th where the ball was burning off too much energy and I had to switch to the gemstone,not bad for such a strong ball.
with similar drills it looks like the NBPP rolls and acts very much like my Ogre Particle and the two should make a very good particle 1-2 punch for conditions with spotty backends.
BTW I keep the gemstone in the bag for ten pin spares and a strike ball for when the lanes get dry.
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Re: Update: NBPP
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2010, 10:33:20 PM »
It was a VERY condition specific ball for me Steve.....VERY!  Glad you got what you like.  I didn't. I shot one 7 with it and now expect you to roll some big scores!!!  
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Re: Update: NBPP
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2010, 10:43:58 PM »
I hope I do Scott! I do like this ball and all the other Visionay balls I've collected.my only regret is that I didn't try them sooner,this one's a keeper as well.
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