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ibowled286

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Visionary arsenal help
« on: July 01, 2008, 04:44:35 AM »
I am going to be joining the visionary test staff here in the next few weeks and could really use everyones help as to what 4 balls I should get.  Here are a few things about my style to help.  I have slower ball speed probably about 15 mph, med revs don't know how many exactly though.  mainly only bowl on a ths that the house strips the lanes at night, and then re-runs the heads right before league starts.  I would say med oil, in the fall the might put out a slightly heavier shot.  Typically I like to use pearlized stuff or solids that have been polished.  Any information on picking a four ball arsenal would be great!

 

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Re: Visionary arsenal help
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2008, 12:53:36 PM »
I would say look at both Gladiators (Solid & Pearl), Ogre Pearl and possibly Blue/Green Centaur.
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Re: Visionary arsenal help
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2008, 12:54:39 PM »
Look towards Gladiator Solid, Ogre Solid and Pearl, Blue/Green Centaur or a Frankie May Gryphon

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Re: Visionary arsenal help
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2008, 12:58:41 PM »
Gladiator Solid
Ogre Pearl
Gladiator Pearl
Ogre SS or Blue/Green Centaur

If you need more ball than the Glad Solid, look at an AMB solid or even the Immortal Solid, be careful with layouts on those tho due to their high diff cores!
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Re: Visionary arsenal help
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2008, 02:24:50 PM »
How do any of these balls compare to the total NV?  That is what I am using now, but I took it down to 2000 rather than 4000 that was oob.  It works for what I have been bowling on this summer but again they might increase the oil during the fall league.  Also what about the immortal pearl, I would love to try a flair monster like that, anyone throw it?

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Re: Visionary arsenal help
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2008, 08:42:13 PM »
I have been practicing and throwing 3 of the balls that I got with my membership alot lately, and should be getting the reviews done any day now...but here's what I can say (throwing all 3 on 2 different THS and Viper and Cheetah:

3-balls = Frankie May, Immortal Pearl, and Purple Ice Executioner.

Frankie May: This is a very strong ball OOB. I have thrown with
much success. Is a very strong, yet smooth move to the pocket. Hooks a ton! It outhooks my Lane#1 Solid Carbide Bomb by about 3 boards total (though not quite as angular), and is only about 2-3 boards weaker than my Visionary Midnight Scorcher (though that ball is drilled to roll at my feet).

Grade = A++ HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

Immortal Pearl: I was somewhat unsure about this ball when first deciding whether or not I'd match up well with it...glad I decided to get it! It gets down the lane easy, while still maintaining a very strong backend move with OOB cover. It gets down the lane as easy as my Green Gargoyle, but has about a 4 board bigger backend movement than the Greenie, and is about 2 boards stronger than my Storm Fired Up (which the Fired Up is drilled to roll up a bit earlier but still have backend POP).

Grade = B+ (Still isn't as strong in heavier volumes than I thought it might be)

Purple Ice Executioner: This is the ONLY Visionary ball that I've ever really heard negative things about but since I match up sooo well to Particle Pearls, I HAD to give it a shot. I mean, c'mon, it IS a Visionary ball after all...it can't POSSIBLY be bad....right? Well, I Started by drilling this ball Stacked Leverage, and figured I'd try it with OOB cover (which I figured wouldn't be how I kept it....since every other PP covered ball I've ever thrown was pretty polished by the time I was done with it). I have to say that I was really worried that this ball might finally be the first Visionary product I couldn't talk good about. It rolled worse then terrible! I decided that I'd start messing with the cover prep....went from OOB (600 wet sand) to 1000 Abralon, and it still rolled bad! Now 2000 Abralon with some Neo-Tac Hook It (since the shop was out of Renew-It)...BRILLIANT! Now I see why people like Livespive love the Executioner core! This ball rolls better on the PBAX Cheetah shot than any other ball I throw! Very smooth through the front of the lane....makes a predictable read of the midlane, and a continuous move to the pocket! Very strong hit! I would say that this ball is about 2-3 boards stronger than my Morich Onslaught (though the Onslaught is 100% backend...very skid/snap for me), and about the same in total hook as my Columbia300 Flipside Wired (thought the Wired is more of a smooth start to finish reaction, as compared to the small but noticeable motion the Purple Ice makes at the breakpoint).

Grade = A- (although I would like to throw more on THS to get an even better feel for the ball)!

All in all, I would definately have to suggest that you get a Frankie May, though looking into an Immortal (since they are no longer making the core) wouldn't be a bad idea either!

Hope this helps...

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How do any of these balls compare to the total NV?  That is what I am using now, but I took it down to 2000 rather than 4000 that was oob.  It works for what I have been bowling on this summer but again they might increase the oil during the fall league.  Also what about the immortal pearl, I would love to try a flair monster like that, anyone throw it?

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Re: Visionary arsenal help
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2008, 03:12:06 AM »
Ok well after reading reviews and thinking some about my style and after looking at the visionary website I have decided I am going to go with an all pearl line up.  Visionary offers 5 pearl balls and even that is proving to be a hard choice.  I think I for sure want to get the immortal pearl, ogre pearl, and I think I am going to get the g3 gryphon.  that leaves me stuck between the gladiator pearl and the centaur amb pearl, so the question I now ask is which of those two should I get.  I was leaning towards getting the gladiator pearl since it is a totally different core than the other stuff I am getting.