Everyone's definition of a "super" cover is probably different, but I will provide my take.

I have thrown Storm, including most recently the Zero Gravity, Optimus Solid, Loco Solid (yes, Roto, but essentially the same), IQ Tour Nano, and a few others. I also currently have every VBP ball in production and many of the discontinued balls as well. WHat I can tell you is if you are looking for a super absorbant cover that sucks in oil and then needs revived in 30 games, VBP does not do this. Jason put his most aggressive shell to date on the Spartan and even then the ball does not suck oil like Storm's (or pretty much any other company).

With VBP, you get durability. I am using a Frankie May Gryphon as my go to ball right now that was poured in 2005....12 years old, many games, my speed is over 18 and it still turns the corner and hits like it was brand new. I do regular cleaning on the ball of course.

With Storm, the first thing I noticed is the ball takes tons of lane shine if the ball is dull and there is quickly a track. With VBP, the ball shines a little and there is little to no tracking. The covers hold up much better.

A note on VBP (Visionary Bowling Products) stuff...I use tons of blems....Jason and the VBP crew are VERY picky about what is marked as a first. Many of the balls that you see from other companies that are weird looking pours compared to the rest of the balls or has a ton of phasing will get released most of the time as a 1st from the other companies. Not at VBP. Jason and his crew inspects every ball on the line and if everything doesn't meet their high standards, it is marked as a blem. Tons of good deals to be found for slightly cheaper price.

Jason is second to none with customer service. Great guy to work with to answer pretty much any question you may have.

Don't forget the cores....Bowlerscellar.com still has both immortals for sale with that .078 differential and quite of few of the discontinued older releases at decent prices..a great way to test out and check out the company for reasonable prices.

Brad

That's a good site for Visionary, it seems to be having some server issues right now

what cover from storms stuff is comparable to the raven invasion. the raven invasion is 1 that i am really wanting to try from visionary as my 1st ball from them

So is the Seismic EVO hybrid a Visionary cover?

So what kind of reaction should I expect from the Raven invasion. And is visionary stuff more of a smoother look vs storms hockey stick / back end type reaction ?

I had a Reax2 and a Ridiculous Asym.  Both balls were very late.. and very very strong.. Problem was after 60ish games I cant get them anywhere close to what they were.

No amount of bleeding and resurfacing will bring them back.  The IQ Nano Tour solid was an amazing ball... for 40+ games.  then just another solid ball that went dead.

So If your looking for skid/snap or really late breaking stuff you will not find it in the Visionary brand.

You will find stuff that hooks.. and hooks hard but more of a really strong arc. that just lasts.  I have well over 150+ games on my Attack and it works as it did the day I drilled it.  Same for all my VBP balls...

Invasion is later by the nature of being a polished pearl than the Attack or say the original Raven, but you cant call it a hockey stick reaction. just a later strong arc that in my opinion carries really really well.

Just wish they would replace the Ogre line.  Need that mid price benchmark ball line again.

Where are they poured?