Author Topic: Visionary durability (Read 1096 times)

rocketkyle · « **on:** March 21, 2008, 03:38:41 PM »

Hello. Soon I'll be buying the complete Ogre series (Solid, Pearl, and SS). I haven't heard anything bad about the durability of the coverstocks, but the cheap price of the balls has me slightly worried. Is there anything I need to know before buying them? Also what kind of cleaner do you guys use on these balls? One last question: What do you think about the combination of balls? Will they make a good arsenal? Sorry for my questions. I actually have been bowling for 14 years, a hook for 7, but I've never had more than one ball in my bag at a time, so this is all new to me. Thanks.

Juggernaut · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2008, 11:44:47 PM »

Just remember this. The Ogre line isn't meant to be the highest performing balls in the visionary lineup. They are good, no doubt, but their abilities will be slightly limited by their lower flaring cores.

The solid will handle decent volumes of oil, but, if you intend it for truely heavy conditions, needs to be drilled to reach its maximum potential, and even then it won't handles as much as their balls with more flare potential.

Don't get this wrong. The Ogre's are great balls, they just have their limitations on really heavier conditions for some people.
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Lillen · « **Reply #2 on:** March 22, 2008, 12:54:59 AM »

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The solid will handle decent volumes of oil, but, if you intend it for truely heavy conditions, needs to be drilled to reach its maximum potential

By that do you mean putting a stacked layout on the Ogre solid?

seldent · « **Reply #3 on:** March 22, 2008, 08:11:29 AM »

If you have three balls in your bag, I'm not sure that you want both the Ogre pearls. Perhaps relpace one with a plastic spare ball.
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scotts33 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 22, 2008, 09:41:11 AM »

rocketkyle,

You'll find Visionary's equipment some of the longest lasting in the marketplace. I have had over the years over 25 of them. I have never had one of them die or crack. I can't say that about any other manufacturer as I have tried others.

Visionary's doesn't use any filler to lower Rg like most. LM/L used to pour that way but know even they do so on some of their balls. Hence most of their line is higher Rg. Rev dominant players tend to like Visionary equipment. They have also produced equipment with higher flaring potential for those that want/need more help thru the midlane and backend.

Visionary produces the Ogre line to allow folks that are looking for a lower cost line or entry line just as RotoGrip produces the Planet line. Just good marketing on their part. Nothing wrong in quality or amount of roll and hook of the Ogre line.

I'll disagree that you don't want both pearlized Ogre's both have a different reaction and ability on different lane conditions.

Right now to every league night I carry the Solid Gladiator, Pearl Ogre and SS Ogre. This covers a whole gamut of conditions.

Good luck with your purchase.
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #5 on:** March 22, 2008, 11:06:00 PM »

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The solid will handle decent volumes of oil, but, if you intend it for truely heavy conditions, needs to be drilled to reach its maximum potential

By that do you mean putting a stacked layout on the Ogre solid?

What I mean is that, if you intend to use the Ogre solid on a long, high volume oil pattern, you should drill it to let it reach it's full potential.

Usually, this would be the highest flaring pattern for each individual bowler, period. 3 3/8 X 3 3/8 is considered full leverage, but may not end up in a "true" stacked appearance. That will depend on each bowlers individual p.a.p. measurement.

Even "maxed out", the Ogre solid would never challenge the immortal solid with the same drilling. The immortal solid, by virtue of its much stronger core, would flare MUCH more, and thusly, handle more oil than the Ogre would, given that it has an aggressive cover on it as well.
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