Author Topic: What is it with this Blurple Ogre (Read 1947 times)

six pack · « **on:** February 16, 2010, 12:44:25 PM »

that makes it such a power house? I've only used it 5 full games and every game has been over 200 and I've had 3 games over 250 with it. my SS has performed great also but not like this Blurple! the only regret is it needs good oil that I don't see often but when I do watch out!
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scotts33 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2010, 08:46:04 PM »

Easy length and arc without over reaction for most.
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bigz · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2010, 09:22:53 PM »

its a great core/cover combo..great for med-med heavy that alot of pearls can't compete with.
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scotts33 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2010, 09:29:55 PM »

I'd say it's good for medium even benchmark but med-heavy only if taken down from it's 1500 polished OOB surface to something like a 2000 abralon. Everybody to their own but not what I think as medium-heavy that's a Gladiator Solid 2000 abralon for me or a NBPP. Maybe one's technique stats. or lane conditions lend itself to medium-heavy?.......not me.

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gsback · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2010, 03:58:38 AM »

Scott, I think lane conditions are one thing, but also, it depends on where you are playing it.

For the most part, I find the ball to excel on a down and in as the strong arc the ball has lends itself to a nice easy recovery to the pocket. But that's me and that's just what I see.

Some of the vids I've shot have the OP used quite a bit and it's every bit as strong as anything else I have on a THS.
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scotts33 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2010, 05:38:09 AM »

Yep what one calls medium another might call light medium and so on. It's all so subjective.

Take the Visionary ball comparison page. http://visionarybowling.com/?page_id=270

Visionary puts the NBPP weaker than both the Ogre Pearl and Gladiator Solid. While BTM rates them OOB as.....

NBPP torque 6.5, length 12.5, backend 15.0 and total hook 49
Gladiator Solid torque 6.0, length 12, backend 14.5 and total hook 48
Ogre Pearl torque 6.0, length 14, backend 15.0 and total hook 47

I would agree more with BTM's opinion in OOB surface same layout. So for me NBPP for medium-heavy, Gladiator Solid same, Ogre Pearl medium, SS Ogre and G/B Centaur light-medium.

Here's the kicker if one grabs at the bottom all these balls can be something different for many folks add ball speed yadda yadda and we all may get different ball reactions. The grabbing at the bottom and coming around the side of the ball can vary ball reactions widely. I get to bowl with this equipment on various patterns in tourney's so my opinions are based on more than one house on one THS lane condition.
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lenstanles703 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2010, 01:53:46 PM »

Just great stuff!
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gsback · « **Reply #7 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:41:03 AM »

The interesting thing about the Ogre Pearl, and really most of the Ogre lineup (except SS and Urethane) is that when you read the numbers, you have to think ball that''s going to be weak. RG is actually higher IMO than most of the balls and the Diff is definitely low.....yet this ball does in fact hook.

Prime example of how much influence the coverstock actually has in the ability of a ball to handle a little oil on the lane.

On edit, I corrected the above as I had RG and Diff swapped....my bad!!
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Edited on 2/19/2010 1:18 PM

charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** February 18, 2010, 06:08:28 AM »

quote:
The interesting thing about the Ogre Pearl, and really most of the Ogre lineup (except SS and Urethane) is that when you read the numbers, you have to think ball that''s going to be weak. Diff is actually higher IMO than most of the balls and the RG is definitely low.....yet this ball does in fact hook.

Prime example of how much influence the coverstock actually has in the ability of a ball to handle a little oil on the lane.
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The numbers ONLY reflect the core. The numbers CAN ONLY reflect the core. The covers are all on the strong side, with the Blurple and the Pumpkin being the strongest. I mean how many coverstocks out there would any other manufacturer dare to put over the Ogre core and expect it to cover true medium-heavy (Ogre Solid) or heavy (Ogre Particle) oil??? Answer: ZERO

Ball = Core + Coverstock.
They are indivisible.

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Edited on 2/18/2010 7:09 AM

six pack · « **Reply #9 on:** February 18, 2010, 10:37:42 AM »

I agree the covers are strong with just enough motor.
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gsback · « **Reply #10 on:** February 18, 2010, 11:41:21 AM »

quote:

The numbers ONLY reflect the core. The numbers CAN ONLY reflect the core. The covers are all on the strong side, with the Blurple and the Pumpkin being the strongest. I mean how many coverstocks out there would any other manufacturer dare to put over the Ogre core and expect it to cover true medium-heavy (Ogre Solid) or heavy (Ogre Particle) oil??? Answer: ZERO

Ball = Core + Coverstock.
They are indivisible.

I understand that....however there are many people that think only in terms of the numbers and what that means to a ball. That's specifically why I used the Ogre as the example.

Most people I've given information to about the ball look at the numbers and don't equate an oil ball to them. Fact is though, the Ogre Particle and Solid can deal with the oil.
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charlest · « **Reply #11 on:** February 18, 2010, 01:46:44 PM »

gsback wrote:
"Fact is though, the Ogre Particle and Solid can deal with the oil."

I agree and with a vengeance. I have to take my Pumpkin to P4000 grit to use it on medium oil.

In fact, that was a question on my mind:
How would a Pumpkin at 4000 grit compare to a Blurple at stock, both drilled the same, let's say pin above the ring finger??
for an average revs, average ball speed bowler?

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six pack · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2010, 12:12:46 PM »

quote:
gsback wrote:
"Fact is though, the Ogre Particle and Solid can deal with the oil."

I agree and with a vengeance. I have to take my Pumpkin to P4000 grit to use it on medium oil.

In fact, that was a question on my mind:
How would a Pumpkin at 4000 grit compare to a Blurple at stock, both drilled the same, let's say pin above the ring finger??
for an average revs, average ball speed bowler?

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I never tried the Pumpkin and they seem to be hard to find used but I'm considering trying another Blurple with the same layout but more surface since my polished one seems to be on the edge of med/heavy for me I think the Blurple with 1000 on it would make a good heavy/med ball.
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charlest · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2010, 04:01:34 PM »

and I've been thinking about getting another Blurple and drilling it right this time.

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six pack · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2010, 08:26:29 PM »

used my Blurple on a med/ heavy flat patter tonight with good results.I had to stay up the back of it all night to keep it in the track and shot 233,257 and a 198 once the carry down got the best of me.I was wishing I had a little more surface on it.
I have to thank Jon,a BR member that sold me this ball!
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