IMO, here's the problem Jason has to face!!

Visionary definitely makes some unique stuff.  I honestly do feel that they make the best ball out there as well.....products that last....without all the work needed to keep the soakers rolling the same they did when you first bought them.

Fact is.....people want hook.  When I say people.....I mean the 60-70% that don't understand a bowling ball, don't understand how to read the lanes, and really don't want to (or will.....as they evolve into a bowler).  

The above market is what Jason needs to cater to.....the market where people are purchasing the soakers.....only don't make it a soaker because that doesn't go along with the Visionary principles!!

In the end, anything he does has to have marketing to make it successful!!  Why?  Anyone remember the Blue Centaur Particle??  I don't believe it was that huge of a seller......but it'll handle any volume of oil out there!!  Problem I see with it is that particle balls, IMO, don't have the same look a reactive does when it hooks...you know....those 20 boards in the last moment.  But....that 60-70% club doesn't understand that!!  I know....I was one of them!!



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I think everyone on here has made some very valid points.  I guess the main thing is that all their lines are still relatively new, so where would you go in regards to new releases?  I believe the issue with the AMB Particle, was that it literally hooked too much, too early, though the surface could be adjusted.  I think if that ball was OOB at 1000 as opposed to 320-400 and maybe even a lighter load particle, it may have sold better?  I bought one for giggles and put a 5.5 pin to PAP, 80 degree layout and on a 42 foot fresh THS, could not keep it off the 7 pin.  Even at 1000, I struggled with it.  HOWEVER.......I ended up selling a few of these because a couple people "who dont understand bowling balls" saw how much that thing hooked and they insisted they had to have one.  It did match up better for them than myself because of their lower rev rates, but it was an example of the 60-70% crowd that GS was speaking of.  

Thanks for all the responses.  As usual on the VBP forums, awesome to see and know that we can have intelligent discussions with the derogatory comments.  Another reason I love coming on here.  Thanks again everyone.
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