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Joe Jr

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Update on Mush are Gold
« on: July 10, 2006, 07:43:51 AM »
Not sure anyone cares but Jeff Mop is giving updates.

Update1:
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If you want to read an ACTUAL report, I'm sitting here at Boca Bowl where Mushtare is actually bowling his first round (no, he didn't prebowl). His first game started off with a strike, then he went Big 4, missed them all (one of the corners was out, so it was 7-), then he flagged the headpin left leaving the 1-3-6 and chopped the headpin clean off. At this point, he had 32 in the third. He did make a nice comeback, though, going triple, then spare strike spare strike the rest of the game for 191.

I didn't see most of the second game, but I did see a runaway brooklyn where he left a 5-pin. He also finished the game X 7/ S8- XXX for 200 on the dot. He is now -9 after 2.

The pattern in this center is a 35 foot pattern. The breakpoint is out near 5, so bowlers are either playing up the gutter or freewheeling it. Mushtare is freewheeling it, but the lanes will start carrying down soon, so he will get some push in the middle, but it might come at the expense of bringing the ball back from the outsides. We'll see what happens.


The kid actually doesn't throw the ball half bad. He definitely throws it better than on that video clip from the news report we all saw. Still, he grabs and hits up on the ball a TON. His accuracy needs lots of work as well, partly because of how much he grabs it at the bottom.

There is a news crew here following him around. Rumor has it it's ESPN, but it could be a local crew. I can't tell.

I will update as the squad goes on

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LuckyLefty

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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #136 on: July 24, 2006, 01:17:59 PM »
College graduate?

WOW! Would you like to compare transcripts and schools?  If you are 4.0 in school you do have me beat!
You clearly know nothing about me...the businesses I run, other accomplishments outside the sports sphere.  Many on this site do.  I am a fortunate person!  I'm not who you think I am.  Don't let a lack of high level interest in punctuation spelling and grammar define for you the content of what I am saying to you!  I was not an English major I admit!  

If I need an editor for important buisness publishing...I hire one!  Your focus on punctuation and sentence structure as a large part of the basis for your rantings.  Instead the focus should be on the logic of the discussion.  I love your criticism of the 40 days I've posted before regarding mental training versus my recommendation of at least 30days before the effects are usually felt.  That disproves it...  You said 40 before(I did and used) and now you are saying 30(a baseline minimum recommended by the experts)!


Again,

You have me convinced it can'tbe done...and most definitely these out of body occurances won't be coming from anyone YOU know.

Especially if you hae anything to do with it!

Don't believe everyone is backing you on these posts...there are lots of people who think the ideas out here I am giving you have value.  Including some people who don't post much and others who've made money off of these ideas not on this site.

Robert Mushtare, had a realization after several incredible practice sessions...
"Mom....I'm getting ready to do some incredible things!"  That simple.
I would bet after that he dreamed it!  

It's often a vision...just like that!

YOu should try it sometime...it might leave you more satisfied...less crabby!  Or as some have described ...you...prickly!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS Clearly thought only!.. without action, accomplishes little.
Thinking combined with action and talent is the best prescription.
Regarding these ideas.  A millionaire friend of mine says his key to getting wealthy is looking at his net worth statement once a month for 5 minutes and thinking about it!  That's it!  WOW. But think of all the others that do this and it doesn't work!  
PPS For many people Ann Coulter is a well respected set of opinions with a razor tongue.  She also does not intend to please everyone....
PPPS we do understand that you disagree with me, we also understand that if Robert Mushtare changes the past...finds witnesses to his accomplishment you will believe him!  These are a reasonable set of conditions..in your mind.
The changing of the past one...well that's easy isn't it?  THere are sworn witnesses to one game of series 2 900(1st approved) and to the complete second 900 approved(Jamie Grimm).  Do we really need to go farther to understand he didn't do it your mind...won't be able to prove it too you? etc.  I get it and with your friendly writing style...it isn't hard for most others to get it either!
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Edited on 7/24/2006 1:59 PM
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #137 on: July 24, 2006, 01:18:57 PM »
Why is mushy so intrigueing to you all?
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #138 on: July 24, 2006, 03:30:40 PM »
PLEZE ENOUGH ALREADY!! Drop The Subject. It's Really Getting Old. Mushy Might Have Hit It On A Walled Up Shot, GOOD FOR HIM, THAT'S NOT HELPING US OUT. I'm Sick of Seeing his Name and This Post. If he Did Good For Him IF he Didn't And Cheated, He already made Himself look Like A Cheat and a fake at JOG and any other competition. The Boy Wonder is not that damn Wonderful to be dragging on a 2 week post.
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Edited on 7/24/2006 3:30 PM

LuckyLefty

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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #139 on: July 24, 2006, 05:03:56 PM »
While I'm thinking of it...I'd like to finalize the thought on Richie Sposato president of Lane#1 and his demonstration the other day.

This thought will further back up my contention that proper drillings and experience etc can make a tremendous difference on a challenging shot.
Often over 20 to 25 pins a game for a long tournament format.

In this case...Richie used some wonderful Lane#1 stuff to start.  Including their famous and well recognized Lane#1 Viper.  Noted for it's tremendous smoothness with his dynamic no thumb release this ball was clearly TOO much for the pattern.  Other newer Lane # 1's were also WAY too strong for this shorter pattern.

The pin axis drilling put on Lane #1's new clear plastic converted this very jumpy pattern from tough play to easy as pie for his powerful release and this mild drilling and ball.  Adding probably 60 pins to his average game from resin over these couple of games!  WOW.

More proof that special drillings, knowledge(Richie has been around for awhile), combined with powerful technique can make all the difference for the powerful release on these patterns.  However without these tools.  The powerful release looks like it is penalized more than the more standard and less powerful action!

I believe 3 days of training on these patterns with a knowledgeable ball driller could cure all these problems quickly.  Again though if someone can average 205 on this pattern I do not see it as confirmation or non conformation of a 900.  In this I am in agreement.  Of course I disagree with the point that a 185 average on the sport shot at JR Golds without this specialized knowledge and some moderate training disproves any 900 type of skill.

Leading us back to the point.  Robert Mushtare's lack of knowledge and drilling patterns combined with his powerful release and big board covering type of ball probably had as much to do with his not so great performance at JR. GOLD.  These things can be easily cured!

Trying to shoot a 900 with a more mundane release..highly improbable and tougher to cure!

REgards,

Luckylefty

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Edited on 7/24/2006 5:00 PM
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #140 on: July 24, 2006, 05:50:54 PM »
There is no specialized knowledged needed to hit what you looking at.  There is no specialized knowledge to making spares i.e not going 6 out on the 3-6-9-10 spare.

And you sound like the few local people that went out to Team USA qualifiers, averaged 170 with 12 balls and blamed it on the equipment.  Yet there were at least 2-3 balls in their bag that were more than sufficient.  You act as though there are some secret decoder batman style drillings that if you have you'll all of a sudden average 220 on a tough shot?  It's as simple as surface and flare management.


And the reason there are so few 900s is simple.  Lane transition and pressure.  I don't care how easy the shot is, todays balls break down shots extremely quickly. Even the shots where you only move a few boards a night, there are subtle changes that affect carry.  Lastly, pour on the pressure from back to back 300s and you have why so few have been thrown.




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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #141 on: July 24, 2006, 07:40:00 PM »
quote:
College graduate?

WOW! Would you like to compare transcripts and schools?  If you are 4.0 in school you do have me beat!
You clearly know nothing about me...the businesses I run, other accomplishments outside the sports sphere.  Many on this site do.  I am a fortunate person!  I'm not who you think I am.  Don't let a lack of high level interest in punctuation spelling and grammar define for you the content of what I am saying to you!  I was not an English major I admit!  

If I need an editor for important buisness publishing...I hire one!  Your focus on punctuation and sentence structure as a large part of the basis for your rantings.  Instead the focus should be on the logic of the discussion.  I love your criticism of the 40 days I've posted before regarding mental training versus my recommendation of at least 30days before the effects are usually felt.  That disproves it...  You said 40 before(I did and used) and now you are saying 30(a baseline minimum recommended by the experts)!


Again,

You have me convinced it can'tbe done...and most definitely these out of body occurances won't be coming from anyone YOU know.

Especially if you hae anything to do with it!

Don't believe everyone is backing you on these posts...there are lots of people who think the ideas out here I am giving you have value.  Including some people who don't post much and others who've made money off of these ideas not on this site.

Robert Mushtare, had a realization after several incredible practice sessions...
"Mom....I'm getting ready to do some incredible things!"  That simple.
I would bet after that he dreamed it!  

It's often a vision...just like that!

YOu should try it sometime...it might leave you more satisfied...less crabby!  Or as some have described ...you...prickly!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS Clearly thought only!.. without action, accomplishes little.
Thinking combined with action and talent is the best prescription.
Regarding these ideas.  A millionaire friend of mine says his key to getting wealthy is looking at his net worth statement once a month for 5 minutes and thinking about it!  That's it!  WOW. But think of all the others that do this and it doesn't work!  
PPS For many people Ann Coulter is a well respected set of opinions with a razor tongue.  She also does not intend to please everyone....
PPPS we do understand that you disagree with me, we also understand that if Robert Mushtare changes the past...finds witnesses to his accomplishment you will believe him!  These are a reasonable set of conditions..in your mind.
The changing of the past one...well that's easy isn't it?  THere are sworn witnesses to one game of series 2 900(1st approved) and to the complete second 900 approved(Jamie Grimm).  Do we really need to go farther to understand he didn't do it your mind...won't be able to prove it too you? etc.  I get it and with your friendly writing style...it isn't hard for most others to get it either!
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..

Edited on 7/24/2006 1:59 PM


Well now, let's all give 3 cheers to Lefty, Hip Hip Hooray! Hip Hip Hooray, Hip Hip Hooray!! Now we have celebrated your numerous successes. Im happy for you, really. Now can we get back to the point?!?

Now just a thought, since you brought it up, since you just pay for whatever you need, maybe Musthare* did the same thing. He needed a 900 series after his real one was declined. Maybe his father just paid people to say they saw something they didn't?!? Not saying it happened, but is it a possiblity?

Again, what would you expect his mother to say? You keep quoting these people as if their words should make a difference. I would only be surprised if she didn't back him up. Jaime Grimm is not a reliable witness. He is his friend and also bowled his very first 300 game that same set. There are witnesses to a few frames here and there but no one to see all of the games, sorry. And for the first one, one games doesn't make a 900 last time a checked.

So now we have 3 examples. And we should give your friend more weight because he is a millionaire? Not sure how he earned his millions, through inheritance, hard work, stock market, who knows. But why should he hold more weight then your friend who shot 800, or the hundreds or thousands who tried this and it didn't work? So maybe now we are to .15%, still not very good in my book.

The only reason I believe he didn't so it, is that the facts can't prove he did. You say there are a lot things that were once fact or were once impossible, that are now possible. But what is difference in all those cases, that isn't true in this one. These things were proven correct. Robby* cannot prove his feat. If Christopher Columbus sent his childhood friend back to Spain to tell them of the new world, would he have been believed? If Edison said he invented the lightbulb, and his mother was the only one to see it and he couldn't reproduce it in front of witnesses, would he have been believed? Prove he did it, prove it with a witness that isn't a friend or relative and I will believe it.
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Edited on 7/24/2006 7:36 PM
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Re: Update on Mush are Gold
« Reply #142 on: July 26, 2006, 04:03:42 PM »
MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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