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willie makeit

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Junior Age Limits Changed
« on: February 13, 2009, 07:58:14 AM »
So USBC does it again. If you turn 20 before 8/1/09, you will no longer be a junior bowler next season. Anyone who read this care? How many of you bowl regularly in scholarhsip tournaments and now have lost a year to do so?
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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2009, 04:07:30 PM »
That will probably effect many college youth bowlers.
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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2009, 12:08:37 AM »
Good. Just one more reason for me to go adult. I was going to shoot for team USA before I turned 20, but maybe I'll just categorize that goal under "f$%# it."
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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2009, 10:20:06 AM »
This just aggravates people even more about the USBC. There are plenty of high level tournaments around here for youth that will lose almost half of their regular participants because of this new rule. Don't get me wrong, I know why they would want to lower it, but to do it simply out of the blue with no warning taking years of youth eligibility away from kids isn't right. End of story.
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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2009, 02:48:20 PM »
The age should be set at the age of graduating college seniors which is around 22. These bowlers who are still in college deserve just as much of a chance to win scholarship money as others. It is ignorant to say that a junior bowler is age 19 and under, how are they taking money at tournaments if they have the skill level to do so? That's like saying you should limit the age of adults bowling in tournaments because they may be older/more experienced and taking a good bit of the money. That's the stupidest reason I've ever heard. The rule has been set at 21 for over 20 years, why change it now?
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Z Jellsey

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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2009, 05:02:29 PM »
When you could legally go buy a pitcher of Newcastle after a junior league, something is wrong. USBC was only wrong in not making it 18. Smoking legally in juniors is also crazy.

You don't see little league players smoking and drinking.
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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2009, 05:27:36 PM »
good im glad they changed they need to lower it to 18.  18 is when they say you become an adult no?  I remeber bowling jbts with guys that had a girlfriend and 2kids and should be in adults, but because of the rulebook just abuse the age im 19 going into adult league.
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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2009, 06:00:51 PM »
i dont get why so many people are b_tchin about this new rule. youth bowling is just politics now. if ur not in the top 5 or ten in the country theres no point in bowling youth. theres no money and junior gold is  becoming a joke. once people see all the money is in mens leagues and tournaments they will change their minds.
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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2009, 03:10:05 AM »
Well the interesting question I have now is what will Jeff do with JBT? JBT is not USBC sanctioned so will they allow bowlers to still bowl as a junior until they are 22 or will he change his rule also?
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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2009, 03:42:13 AM »
I feel that this rule needed to be put into effect personally!! It was either change the rule or put a college division/18 yrs and older division into play.

How many kids go to college and get some really good coaching to go to JBTs, Olympic Gold, or just regular youth tournaments in your area and beat up on 16 yr olds that are averaging 200 but have no clue about equipment or mental game ( I know they all think they do, but someday they will look back and say WOW I really didn't have a clue! )

Students go to colleges with some very well coached teams, that is unfair to most of the juniors that cannot even get into college yet because they are still in high school! They don't at times have the same access to equipment as most college teams that are sponsored do! Just alot of unfair advantages to someone that is over the age of 18 and still bowling juniors!

All the youth bowlers this rule effects good luck and enjoy your last year as a USBC youth member!
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wphill02

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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2009, 04:09:19 PM »
I think that it is stupid to change the age limit because it affects the 20 people that make junior team USA.  The sensible thing to do would be that only those under 20 are allowed to make junior team USA and the rest can still bowl JOG and try to win our junior national championship.  

I really don't understand the reasoning that the older kids keep the younger kids from winning tournaments or whatever point you guys are trying to make.  I bowl on the northeast jbt and our all-time title leader won like 40 tournaments before he even entered college.  I think i read that the kid that has been dominating the southwest jbt the last few years is only 16.  Also, how many colleges actually have top notch coaching? 10-15? I never bowled in college so I could be wrong but it just seems like such a small proportion of kids plus half those kids go adult anyway. Most of the kids are really good before they go to college too so it's not like they go their as a terrible bowler and then become great because of the coaching.

I realize that my view is a little biased because this ruling would take away my final year of youth eligibility.  But it just seems like another thing usbc has done to become more of a joke and the way they handled this announcement was just stupid.  They put two lines about it at the end of an article about changes to youth membership and give no reason for it. The arguments for this change just don't make sense to me.

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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2009, 04:23:10 PM »
There is an issue here that no one is bringing up. What do the NCAA woman do? They can't go adult because of eligibility and they can't bowl youth because they are too old. So what? Just not bowl for a few years? That will really help the sport on the collegiate level...
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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2009, 07:12:38 PM »
18 is the right age, when your in college you shouldn't be able to bowl in youth tournaments, you are a young adult. Buck up and start bowling leagues, get a job and help pay for your college tuition, YOUR PARENTS HAVE SUPPORTED YOU LONG ENOUGH
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rockerbowler18

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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2009, 07:29:52 PM »
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i dont get why so many people are b_tchin about this new rule. youth bowling is just politics now. if ur not in the top 5 or ten in the country theres no point in bowling youth. theres no money and junior gold is  becoming a joke. once people see all the money is in mens leagues and tournaments they will change their minds.
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Couldn't agree more. There are the Mark French, Devin Bidwell, Andrew Koff, Matt Jones, etc of the youth bowlers (Mark moved up a year ago)...and they absolutely dominate...


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18? are you guys nuts? half of us are still in high school at 18. also, with the rule where juniors can bowl in adult tournaments, whats the point of lowering the limit.... no one is forcing anyone to stay junior.
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18 is the right age, when your in college you shouldn't be able to bowl in youth tournaments, you are a young adult. Buck up and start bowling leagues, get a job and help pay for your college tuition, YOUR PARENTS HAVE SUPPORTED YOU LONG ENOUGH
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I agree. I'm 18 and in high school. 18 is nuts. Way too young. 21 was a good age, I think the 20 pushes it too far.

As far as the other comment, "get a job and help pay for your college tuition, YOUR PARENTS HAVE SUPPORTED YOU LONG ENOUGH." I have a job. Staying in school. My 4.5 GPA is my job, thank you very much. Just because the government is more willing to afford food stamps and welfare for Mrs. invitro fertilization with 2000 kids instead of investing in our future by providing the top 5 kids from every high school in the nation with a college education is absolutely no reason I should have to be a full time student with a full time job. Thanks anyway.


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Well the interesting question I have now is what will Jeff do with JBT? JBT is not USBC sanctioned so will they allow bowlers to still bowl as a junior until they are 22 or will he change his rule also?
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I think Jeff will drop the age down just like the rule change with the USBC. Basically the only USBC rule he doesn't follow/agree with is the Smart Fund.
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wphill02

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Re: Junior Age Limits Changed
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2009, 08:38:40 PM »
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18 is the right age, when your in college you shouldn't be able to bowl in youth tournaments, you are a young adult. Buck up and start bowling leagues, get a job and help pay for your college tuition, YOUR PARENTS HAVE SUPPORTED YOU LONG ENOUGH
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Start bowling leagues? Why, so we can go bowl with all the guys who go there to get drunk and complain all night that the pattern wasn't the same as last week or don't understand why their ball is hooking too much? I don't even bowl youth leagues anymore because the kids don't care.  

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