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Fuller300

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Michigan Youth Bowlers
« on: March 11, 2006, 01:41:16 PM »
Just wondering how many kids bowled in michigan. Give me your average, high game, high series, and where you bowl.
As for me....
4 leagues(Saturdays at Fairlanes and Sunnybrook, Sundays on Ward Travel, and a sport league on wednesdays at Sunnybrook)
High Game: 300 x 3
High Series: 793, 792
Average: 220
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2006, 09:52:53 PM »
why don't you tell them your sport average fuller . Are you up to 175 yet?

I also bowl on saturdays and wednesdays at sunnybrook, averaging 218 in my goof off saturday league (my team is horrific, we are in last place) and 189 for my sport league on the season. Also a member of mjma and I try to bowl as many of those tournaments and others as I can.

High game is 300, had 5 of them I believe
high series is somewhere in the 790's
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2006, 09:55:08 PM »
Tell them how many of your 3's are in practice Stanski, for your info my sport average is 169, because i died on that 47 foot carrydown sport piece of crap shot!!
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2006, 09:58:12 PM »
Sport shots are difficult.  It's difficult to find a ball that will give you more than 3 boards to play with at the breakpoint as well as carry when it gets to the pocket.
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2006, 10:01:47 PM »
I get lucky if i have 2 boards I can hit, im struggling so much, it is getting to the point where I throw a shot i think is perfect and it ends up being a split or wash out.
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2006, 10:07:35 PM »
I honestly think that a 180 or higher on a sport shot is a very good game.  Therefore, with that said, I think a 180+ average on a sport shot is very respectable.  A 47' sport shot sounds brutal though!

I really wish there were sport leagues around here instead of the occasional tournament ....
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2006, 10:12:22 PM »
You have no idea, the toughest pattern i have ever bowled on, it frustrates you so much but in the back of your mind you know it will only improve your game
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2006, 10:26:25 PM »
Sport bowling gave me a greater understanding on the importance of spares. Before sport bowling I would miss a spare and not care because I knew I could string 6 in a row, I can't do that as easily on a sport shot. Spares are a big reason my average is down to 169 as compared to 185ish that I ended up with in the summer part of our league
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stanski

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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2006, 10:28:23 PM »
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Tell them how many of your 3's are in practice Stanski, for your info my sport average is 169, because i died on that 47 foot carrydown sport piece of crap shot!!


Practice 3's would give me 9, 2 sanctioned but i consider 4 of my practice 300's crap since they were shot at shores. Just messing with you about the sport average, I know how tough it is.

I'll take 47 feet any day over 8 weeks of oil patterns under 36 feet. I am getting so sick of short oil! I actually liked the 47 foot pattern (but i also liked the 50 foot pattern as well). I also don't think the accuracy on spares has helped me as much as learning to leave easier spares.

And you can probably scale some of your posts down (delete them), as we are filling up this thread about how ridiculous our league patterns have been.
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2006, 10:35:36 PM »
Anything around 40 feet isn't too bad and yes i agree short oil is getting old.
Where were your sanctioned 3's shot at?
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2006, 10:37:24 PM »
It's pretty darn hard to string together 3 strikes on sport shot.  I'm not consistent enough with my speed and rev-rate, and I can usually hit within 5 boards of my intended target (at the breakpoint), which isn't even close to good enough.  It's pretty hard to be consistent throwing a hook at spares on a sport shot as well!

I think 180+ on a sport shot is an excellent game because if you miss the ball at the bottom or get firm with your speed, the ball hits really light (if it even gets to the headpin at all).  If you tug or slow down too much, it's more likely to go through the nose then hold or go brooklyn.  Slight mistakes sometimes leads to splits, which are pretty difficult to make time after time.  Carry isn't always too great unless the shot is absolutely perfect, so single pin spares are definitely very important.

I think sport conditions improve your mental game, concentration, single pin spare shooting, and active participation (watching where the ball rolls over the arrows and breakpoint, and reading ball reaction).  However, I still believe good mechanics (consistent/straight swing, good follow through, etc.) are the most important in making a good bowler a great bowler!

...and ya, Saturday night and I'm here at home, and I'm boreddddddddddddddd, lol!
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2006, 10:38:18 PM »
shorecrest, unfortunately our league secretary stole all of our money and never sent in our league sanctioning and I got screwed out of my awards. That was the last year i bowled there before i moved to sunnybrook.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2006, 10:42:09 PM »
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It's pretty darn hard to string together 3 strikes on sport shot.  I'm not consistent enough with my speed and rev-rate, and I can usually hit within 5 boards of my intended target (at the breakpoint), which isn't even close to good enough.  It's pretty hard to be consistent throwing a hook at spares on a sport shot as well!

I think 180+ on a sport shot is an excellent game because if you miss the ball at the bottom or get firm with your speed, the ball hits really light (if it even gets to the headpin at all).  If you tug or slow down too much, it's more likely to go through the nose then hold or go brooklyn.  Slight mistakes sometimes leads to splits, which are pretty difficult to make time after time.  Carry isn't always too great unless the shot is absolutely perfect, so single pin spares are definitely very important.

I think sport conditions improve your mental game, concentration, single pin spare shooting, and active participation (watching where the ball rolls over the arrows and breakpoint, and reading ball reaction).  However, I still believe good mechanics (consistent/straight swing, good follow through, etc.) are the most important in making a good bowler a great bowler!

...and ya, Saturday night and I'm here at home, and I'm boreddddddddddddddd, lol!
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With the patterns we are bowling on, carry has not been an issue if you could get the ball there at all. The problem is it seems as if there is a wall directly on either side of the pocket, forcing you to either side.

Plus, the way our league works we change patterns every 3 weeks. Just when you get an idea of what to do on the pattern, we change. Add in the fact that we change lanes after every game, and it gets real messy. It is much better than going out and bowling league like every other house in the city, where you go in and know you haven't shot a good series unless you're 720+, and most of it depends on how lucky you are in stringing together strikes in the right place.

By the way ryan, I had my plastic ball that i was going to give to you in the car the whole time. Remind me to give it to you on wednesday. And you should change this thread title to "why after bowling a year on sport everyone in the league except john kelley still sucks."
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Edited on 3/11/2006 10:43 PM
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2006, 10:46:07 PM »
Know what you mean Stanski, even god like John Kelley has been struggling to shoot 200 lately. Laura keeps trying these new screwed up shots. Getting frustrated, carry at Sunnybrook is hardly ever a problem.
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Re: Michigan Youth Bowlers
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2006, 10:48:48 PM »
Could it be that Mr. Kelley can practice on the current shot when ever he pleases, but hey I don't know that for sure. But I do know that it seems his first shots on *new* shots are always in the pocket.
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