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tgp3

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Jr. Gold Changes 07
« on: April 06, 2006, 12:19:09 PM »
What are the opinions of everyone about the changes to Jr. Gold for Buffalo?  Brief summary for those who didn't see the press release yet:
4 Days of qualifying...bowl 3 days, one off day.
Cut to top 96 guys and 48 girls who return for 6 more games (day not stated)
Cut to top 32 guys and 32 girls who bowl 6 more games
End of Tournament...No match play
Top 1:7 Cash

Basically, less games, more time at location, no match play, and more people...thoughts?
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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2006, 09:10:16 PM »
wow.....George Bush could run Junior Bowling better than these people do.....this is lame...
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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2006, 10:19:17 PM »
LOL JEFF LOL

wow... laughing so hard...
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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2006, 04:35:08 AM »
Matt, don't forget Fountain Bowl, the host house of all the PBA stuff. Fountain in my opinion is the nicest looking and seems in best condition bowling alley in southern Cali
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J-Rad Lawrence

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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2006, 09:17:28 PM »
The whole format needs to go to a Regional and Sectional Qualifying format before they even get to the National level.

Six Regional Qualifiers:

Chicago
Michigan
Texas
Cali/Vegas
Florida
New York/New Jersey

Up to 300 bowlers are allowed to bowl each qualifier. Bowlers qualify based on local scores and have a limited time to qualify, once 300 spots are used up, no more bowlers may enter. From the 300 bowlers , 75 bowlers (50 Boys and 25 girls) will qualify for the Sectional finals. These advancing ratios are 1 in 4 overall.

Sectional Qualifiers

Vegas/Reno (From Texas and Ca/Vegas qualifers)
St. Louis (From Michigan, Chicago)
New York/Florida (From Florida, NY)

100 boys and 50 girls will compete at each Sectional for 48 spots (32 boys and 16 girls) approx. 1 in 3 ratio.

National Finals

96 boys will compete for 32 spots into match play finals. (1 in 3 ratio)
48 girls will compete for 16 spots into match play finals. (1 in 3 ratio)

Now the number of bowlers that qualify for each level can vary but the idea is basically that you have the best of the best at the National finals. You've earned your right to be considered the best.

The different levels of qualifying allow for less overall travel expenses, smaller bowling centers and potential local sponsors.

I never had the chance to bowl Jr. Gold, but I would like to see the best juniors compete at the highest level and eventually make it to the PBA Regional and National levels.
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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2006, 10:40:26 PM »
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Already have told them, thanks for the suggesting. As usual recieved no response. Shocking..


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 The PBA rarely uses matchplay anymore
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Only every week. And please, I'd much rather pay my sanction fee to the PBA than the USBC.
 
The PBA doesnt use match play, they use elimination brackets.

P.S. Something better change, cause I have not heard one voice that is behind this change...
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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2006, 12:44:31 AM »
I like that idea that Jon proposed as well, but it would probably cost USBC more money, and we all know what that means. I think the USBC wouldn't do that for the reasons that they would need different people running it in different places, so they would have to pay for that travel. Also Gold normally has the doubles, team, and other singles tournaments there that bring in alot of money. Accessories sold there brings in alot. No matter what USBC may say, in the end it's all about money. Either way in the end, the top bowlers will make it to the end and the top of all the standings, but it does suck when some bowlers have problems getting their gold spot because house hacks have a great day somewhere and knock the real good bowler out.
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J-Rad Lawrence

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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2006, 02:48:44 AM »
As far as it costing USBC more money, they already charge too much for sanction fees anyway, so let's use some of that money for the juniors who are the future of the game. Besides that, you could treat it like a local city tournament run by mostly volunteers from local associations and only send one delegate from the USBC to oversee the operation. Run 50/50 drawings all weekend, raffles, local sponsors etc. can easily make up the difference if it's done right and the money goes where it's supposed to.

Even if it costs a bit more, you get a better cross-section of juniors from across the nation when they can travel less distance, spend less on expenses and you get better results at the end with the kids being happier. Not to mention that Junior Team USA will definitely be comprised of the best of the best which is what's most important in the long run.
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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2006, 04:32:11 AM »
Jon, I think you need to work for the USBC so they can use your ideas. It really sounds so simple if they do all that stuff and even if it still costs more, for them to bite the dust. USBC is just money hungry people looking to save every penny that they can, oh well, what can ya do?

How did you guys do at league tonight at Del Rio, jump into 2nd overall yet?
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J-Rad Lawrence

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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2006, 09:15:45 PM »
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Jared you shouldnt even go to JOG cause you won't make it. You probably wont even make the first cut .. Man its tough watchin you bowl like that .... Surprised you havent had that elbow worked on yet gettin it straightened out
God, here we go again... Another person to state anything and everything but who they are...
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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2006, 03:34:25 AM »
LOL at Inferno. It had been awhile since anyone had said anything about my game. Hey Mason, have you had your surgery yet? Was your doctor good? Maybe I should go to him...HAHA...Dude, you are just as pathetic as the next person on here. I just wonder, inside your deep hollow little mind, do you enjoy making yourself look stupid. And like I said before, why don't you go tell Walter Ray Williams about his form. Because if you are talking about text book form, he is as far away from it as I am. He's just alot more accurate OBVIOUSLY. Style in bowling gets you know extra pins, if you can place the ball in the same spot, and have the ball rolling how it should be, then that's all that matters. So come on, bring on more stupid comments, because your the one that looks stupid and pathetic, not me, so I don't really care
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J-Rad Lawrence

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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2006, 10:29:01 AM »
So going back to the original topic idea, the whole philosophy behind the new format is beyond me. I dont understand how you can mess with something that is perfect the way it is. JR Gold is looking for the best junior bowlers in the country, right?  How can you possibly figure out who that is if you only bowl 30 games?  The format now is supposed to challenge bowlers mentally and physically, and it does so very well.  I think the new format wont inspire kids to work on their mental games as much since they only have to concentrate for 6 games a day, with a day off in between. Talk to anyone who has made it to match play on sunday, its more mental than it is physical. It puts you in a scenario where every shot counts, the pressure is overwhelming, and the focus that is required equals that of oh lets say, international competition.  Just seems to me that the new format will favor gunslingers who can put up a 250 and then cruise with 180s rather than the better bowlers who can grind out 200-205 on a regular basis. But i guess if they want to have joe schmoe make junior team usa because he bowled 3 good games and it was enough to "carry" him into the top 5, then so be it. I wont be attending so it doesnt much matter to me, but i've been there every year since 2002 in lakeland and i just hate to see this happen because of the political wishes of a couple money hungry USBC officials. The object is to find the best people to support JR Team USA, not fill your pockets with 1800 kids money, and close to 1400 of those kids dont have an ice cubes chance in hell in even making the first cut, let alone making it all the way.  

My idea is this, make getting to the JR Gold Nationals more difficult and hold USBC sanctioned events in which you must qualify through. Only take the top 250 boys and 250 girls who qualify through the events. Then you can change the format all you want and still get a good chance of having the best bowlers make the team. The no match play concept really annoys me too, its the only time when you really get to see what a bowler is made of. Anyone can bowl in an open setting, but make him go out there and beat a PJ Haggarty or a Ronnie Sparks heads up and see how tough it is to make good shots...  That is all.

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jrbowler

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Re: Jr. Gold Changes 07
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2006, 03:17:48 PM »
I think raising the average to qualify to bowl Gold would be enough than changing the format.

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