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thirtyclean · « **on:** November 15, 2010, 02:16:25 AM »

Question,
We are not taling a mixed league, or fun league, but a pretty competitive handicap league, what is the best way to set a your lineup, so it be as easy as by average in ascending order, or is there a science in the best way to optimize you chance of winning. It is a 90% of 210 handicap league. just want to hear some of the better teams thoughts. We pulled cards at the beginning of they year, now, we have settled in with our averages, and I dont think this is right to start the second third, I believe it should be with averages and other factors in mind.
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NeumannKnight · « **Reply #1 on:** November 15, 2010, 10:20:21 AM »

5 man team should be in this order.

Lead off and fourth could be alternated. Both should have high averages. One to set the tone for the game and one for the set-up to the anchor man. Have your fourth man be the guy who is more consistent with his game in high numbers though.

Second slot should be your lowest avg bowler with third being just above him.

Anchor is obvious spot with highest average.
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storm making it rain · « **Reply #2 on:** November 15, 2010, 10:22:11 AM »

most importantly put people where they are comfortable. i would put the guy that always comes thru in the clutch as anchor and build around that.

my belief is your best bowler should be anchor and your second best at lead off. that way you get someone to get your team going and someone to close out games.

scotts33 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 15, 2010, 10:26:42 AM »

I'd disagree with highest average bowler being the anchor. There are many great strike bowlers that are not the highest average on the team. Possibly their spare making ability is poorer than the highest average bowler but they have the most powerful ball/release.

I'd set it this way.

1-2nd/3rd highest average and the ability set the tone.
2-weakest bowler
3-3rd/4th highest average
4-Highest average
5-Best ability to strike not necessarily high average though these could be the same bowler that is lots of times not the case.
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milorafferty · « **Reply #4 on:** November 15, 2010, 10:29:51 AM »

I want my anchor to be the guy who can strike in the 9th and 10th frames. He doesn't have to be the best bowler overall, just the most clutch. #4 should be someone who can take pressure off the anchor.

I prefer to have my highest average as lead off, unless I don't have a clutch bowler for anchor.

Other than that, #2 would be my weakest bowler.
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elmatador · « **Reply #5 on:** November 15, 2010, 10:31:33 AM »

Wow you beat me to post this topic my team is having a tough season we are average wise 6th strongest out of 18 teams but we are in 2nd last this season anyways any suggestions please? I will post a lineup of my team with a b c d e as bowlers
1st A Picks up most spares but not too many strikes 181
2nd B Most inconsistent in the team 182
3rd C most versatile 205
4th D good with the fresh but as soon as the lanes start breaking down starts getting lost 190
5th E great with oily lanes and only struggles with dry 203
can someone please guide me as how to lineus up please?

Russell · « **Reply #6 on:** November 15, 2010, 10:38:58 AM »

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Wow you beat me to post this topic my team is having a tough season we are average wise 6th strongest out of 18 teams but we are in 2nd last this season anyways any suggestions please? I will post a lineup of my team with a b c d e as bowlers
1st A Picks up most spares but not too many strikes 181
2nd B Most inconsistent in the team 182
3rd C most versatile 205
4th D good with the fresh but as soon as the lanes start breaking down starts getting lost 190
5th E great with oily lanes and only struggles with dry 203
can someone please guide me as how to lineus up please?

D
B
A
E
C

You hinted at what your team's problem might be. Two of your bowlers struggle with breakdown. If they can't strike in the third game it doesn't matter where they are in the lineup.

On to the topic...I agree you want your 2 horses at the bottom. Other than that people just need to be comfortable.
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Spider Man · « **Reply #7 on:** November 15, 2010, 10:44:30 AM »

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5 man team should be in this order.

Lead off and fourth could be alternated. Both should have high averages. One to set the tone for the game and one for the set-up to the anchor man. Have your fourth man be the guy who is more consistent with his game in high numbers though.

Second slot should be your lowest avg bowler with third being just above him.

Anchor is obvious spot with highest average.
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I agree. To add, you want your leadoff to be able to handle the heat when the other team strings 5 or the game is close. Starting the 10th with 9-miss isn't good.
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Pinbuster · « **Reply #8 on:** November 15, 2010, 10:47:43 AM »

I'm pretty much with Scott.

You want your lead off to set the tone, so you want a solid bowler there.

2nd and 3rd are your bowlers you feel can succumb to pressure.

Solid clutch bowlers in the 4th and 5th position.

You want bowlers anchoring who want to be there and can often get the strikes need and/or make that clutch spare to win a game.

elmatador · « **Reply #9 on:** November 15, 2010, 10:57:38 AM »

quote:
quote:
Wow you beat me to post this topic my team is having a tough season we are average wise 6th strongest out of 18 teams but we are in 2nd last this season anyways any suggestions please? I will post a lineup of my team with a b c d e as bowlers
1st A Picks up most spares but not too many strikes 181
2nd B Most inconsistent in the team 182
3rd C most versatile 205
4th D good with the fresh but as soon as the lanes start breaking down starts getting lost 190
5th E great with oily lanes and only struggles with dry 203
can someone please guide me as how to lineus up please?

D
B
A
E
C

You hinted at what your team's problem might be. Two of your bowlers struggle with breakdown. If they can't strike in the third game it doesn't matter where they are in the lineup.

On to the topic...I agree you want your 2 horses at the bottom. Other than that people just need to be comfortable.
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I'm going to try swithching the 1st bowler with me the 3rd bowler
1.C I have been anchor before but I am the one that doesn't mind being in any spot in the lineup.
2.B Very incosistent.
3.A gets his spares not too many strikes
4.D he just doesn't feel right out of 4th or 5th struggles with breakdown but is very confident and pressure doesn't affect him.
5.E He is a very good anchor and lanes don't really get as dry to the point where he starts struggling too much.

JOE FALCO · « **Reply #10 on:** November 15, 2010, 11:05:03 AM »

I'll guess that 85% of league games are won/lost before the 10th frame. It really doesn't matter what the lineup is .. unless you earn points by beating your opponent!

Picking the lineup out of a hat might be the best way to do it .. no one can complain!!

NeumannKnight · « **Reply #11 on:** November 15, 2010, 11:07:50 AM »

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quote:
5 man team should be in this order.

Lead off and fourth could be alternated. Both should have high averages. One to set the tone for the game and one for the set-up to the anchor man. Have your fourth man be the guy who is more consistent with his game in high numbers though.

Second slot should be your lowest avg bowler with third being just above him.

Anchor is obvious spot with highest average.
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I'm in the process of trying to find out where I fit in the bowling world. I do not know my tech specs of my game, but it's all a learning process.

I agree. To add, you want your leadoff to be able to handle the heat when the other team strings 5 or the game is close. Starting the 10th with 9-miss isn't good.
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Linger Longer

And this is why I lead off. Averaging 205-215 and I break the spirits of other teams (I get into it haha)
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elmatador · « **Reply #12 on:** November 15, 2010, 11:17:16 AM »

OK so does everyone agree this is what i should do? Current line up
1st A Picks up most spares but not too many strikes 181
2nd B Most inconsistent in the team 182
3rd C most versatile 205
4th D good with the fresh but as soon as the lanes start breaking down starts getting lost but he just doesn't feel right out of either 4th or 5th 190
5th E great with oily lanes and only struggles with very dry most powerfull strike ball of us all 203

Now switch it to this
1st C most versatile don't mind playing anywhere in the lineup and good under pressure 205
2nd Most inconsistent in the team 182
3rd Picks up most spares but not too many strikes 181
4th good with the fresh but as soon as the lanes start breaking down starts getting lost but he just doesn't feel right out of either 4th or 5th 190
5th E great with oily lanes and only struggles with very dry most powerfull strike ball of us all 203

Aloarjr810 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 15, 2010, 11:23:08 AM »

One other thing is the lead off bowler should be the one best at reading the lanes and getting lined up. So those following can follow his lead and find the shot faster and have advance info on the how the lanes are changing.
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cheech · « **Reply #14 on:** November 15, 2010, 12:22:19 PM »

1:sets the tone. more energy and consistency
2:worst bowler gets masked around the others
3:better than the 2 bowler
4:best bowler that doesnt handle pressure well. can set up the anchor and take some pressure off of him
5: best bowler/best in pressure situations
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